stormwatcher Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 $1000.00 after taxes $650.00 You load sixteen tons what do you get Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the company store Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganTruck_Mafia Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 :reading: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Wahrheit Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 $1000.00 after taxes $650.00 You load sixteen tons what do you get Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the company store Vote yes this is a great contract.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
400 now 228 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Vote yes this is a great contract....You are a DUMBASS ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereswaldo Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Vote yes this is a great contract.... We need to start flagging this guy...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 You are a DUMBASS ! I concur!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tompor1 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I concur!!!!!!!!! I disagree everybody needs some humor, oops thats not humor that's stupidity... Sorry!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nextup Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Vote yes this is a great contract.... Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherAutoWorker Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 FROM ANOTHER POST: QUOTE (walktall @ Oct 15 2009, 09:36 AM) There is something that was brought up in the National Ford meetings that no one has posted on. Gary W. told us that the arbitration on wages would not be normal arbitration. It would be what is called baseball arbitration. And this is very important. And i will try to explain it. In normal arbitration if the UAW says we want a 5% raise and Ford says we want to cut you 50% the arbitatrator can decide to give you 2% or cut you 10 percent or anywhere he sees fit. But in baseball arbitration it is either/or if it makes it to arbitration you either get the 5% or the 50%loss. But, there is more to this. According to a co-worker who also has a law degree. If UAW askes for a raise at all Ford can force that into arbitration and also include their counter offer of a reduction. We all know the arbitrator isn't going to give us a raise, so we end up losing pay. All of us have wondered why this arbitration letter feels wrong. And that is why. The UAW can in the next negotiations ask for a small raise and in doing so cause us to lose wages. But, this gives them an out, they can claim it wasn't their fault the arbitraitor did it. Ford gets what they want the UAW gets out of the hot seat. SO ASK THIS QUESTION OF THOSE THAT WANT TO SELL YOU THIS CONTRACT. If they know we see what they are doing it makes it harder for them to do. Ask WHY DID WE AGREE TO BASEBALL ARBITRATION? We all felt a stink about that letter, cause none of us thought we would get a raise anyway. This is a trigger that will put us at the same wage rates as GM Chrysler without us seeing it coming. For everyone that thought they smelled a RAT, your RAT has been found. p.s. dont try to google baseball arbitration, you get everything in the world but an explanation. THANK YOU for bringing this to our attenttion! I was going to vote NO before knowing this but I just cannot understand how or WHY anyone in this membership would vote yes after learning this... Not all the membership reads this forum so please take a moment to tell your friends and co workers what you have learned about this baseball arbitration clause. JUST the possibility that this is true is enough to make me question the idiots pushing to pass this thing. REMEMBER WHY MULLALY WAS HIRED IN THE FIRST PLACE! To bust this union. He was sucessful before, he's smart enough to do it again. DO NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN! VOTE NO! How many of us feel like this vote has a predetermined and convenient 49/51% outcome? Nevertheless VOTE NO! Protect yourself! Protect your right to protect yourself with the choice to strike IF needecd! Tell everyone you know about this "baseball" arbitration practice and ask them to vote no also. This is some ugly underhanded union busting shit that will be proudly placed on Mulally resume as a job well done ~ another union busted. Gettlefinger should be ashamed of himself. How many of us can remember learning when Mulally got onboard that he was considered the "Master Union Buster" brought in to do what Bill Ford couldnt do? Just ask the membership of Boeing. Well, here it is, kids... right up side our heads with a vengence. We have no choice but to PROTECT ourselves and not fall for the bullshit some people are posting on here that clearly backs the company and company's propaganda and scare tactics. Even if it means we must protect ourself from the iUAW. (Ugh, what a sad sad day to have to say that...) Gettlefinger should be impeached for this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Wahrheit Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Really? Of course it is. First i challange you to carefully read the contract and not listen to everyone who is not telling the truth about the contract... This is a goood deal and I'm voting yes and encourage everyone else to do so as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale143 Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Vote yes this is a great contract.... Vote no this is a lousy contract.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganTruck_Mafia Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Of course it is. First i challange you to carefully read the contract and not listen to everyone who is not telling the truth about the contract... Which means they should ignore you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Of course it is. First i challange you to carefully read the contract and not listen to everyone who is not telling the truth about the contract... This is a goood deal and I'm voting yes and encourage everyone else to do so as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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