Trades working Production

[CommonSenseAlwaysWorks]

Why is the Union allowing skilled Trades employees to work in production at the Rouge, that have never worked in production? Are all the production people in zones 1 & 2 working?

[Hi-lo Saline]

Why is the Union allowing skilled Trades employees to work in production at the Rouge, that have never worked in production? Are all the production people in zones 1 & 2 working?

I work in the Rouge as well, & have come to conclusion, That we have no rules anymore. It's really a shame that Local 600 has basicly rolled over & played dead to the company.JMO

[Tsquare]

Why is the Union allowing skilled Trades employees to work in production at the Rouge, that have never worked in production? Are all the production people in zones 1 & 2 working?

 

Any production people who want to work were asked first before any production who never worked production. The regardless of their seniority the trades people assume lower siniority than the last production employee. And they are only temperary workers making the same rate as production workers.

[PFA]

..but I believe only if the tradesman didn't have production time before going on trades.

The regardless of their seniority the trades people assume lower siniority than the last production employee.

[whereswaldo]

..but I believe only if the tradesman didn't have production time before going on trades.

Sounds right.

[FiredMotorCompany]

..but I believe only if the tradesman didn't have production time before going on trades.

 

I agree. If you hire to the line then go to trades your Ford seniority continues while in trades and you can assert your Ford seniority as production to avoid ILO. Since tradesmen who hired from the street have no production time, they receive production seniority for the day they become production.

 

Ex.

 

Bob, an electrician, hires in the same day at the same plant as Tom who hires into production. Five years later, Tom acquires Appendix F DOE as an electrician. Bob has the seniority advantage in this scenario. They both have 5 years Ford Seniority, but Bob has the higher trade seniority.

 

On the other hand,

 

There is a reduction in force within the Electrician classification. The reduction affects Bob and Tom. They both transfer into production. Seniority advantage goes to Tom who would then hold 5 years seniority over Bob who has day 1 production seniority.

 

In the event there is a reduction in production, Bob would face lay-off from production before Tom.

Edited November 22, 2009 by FiredMotorCompany

[ypsirat]

I agree. If you hire to the line then go to trades your Ford seniority continues while in trades and you can assert your Ford seniority as production to avoid ILO. Since tradesmen who hired from the street have no production time, they receive production seniority for the day they become production.

 

Ex.

 

Bob, an electrician, hires in the same day at the same plant as Tom who hires into production. Five years later, Tom acquires Appendix F DOE as an electrician. Bob has the seniority advantage in this scenario. They both have 5 years Ford Seniority, but Bob has the higher trade seniority.

 

On the other hand,

 

There is a reduction in force within the Electrician classification. The reduction affects Bob and Tom. They both transfer into production. Seniority advantage goes to Tom who would then hold 5 years seniority over Bob who has day 1 production seniority.

 

In the event there is a reduction in production, Bob would face lay-off from production before Tom.

came in in august with plenty of trades people who had time as production. they didnt get their seniority back either. Its being labeled a temp. employee that changed everything.

[FiredMotorCompany]

came in in august with plenty of trades people who had time as production. they didnt get their seniority back either. Its being labeled a temp. employee that changed everything.

 

More slippery language. "Temporary"

 

The assignment may be temporary, but all else should be by the CBA.

 

Good Luck to all of you.