Pipefitter Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 I guess our plant (Sandusky) is to become non smoking (designated break rooms only) the first of the year. I was thinking that was a contract item? What are the rules in your plant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DearbornDerek Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 I guess our plant (Sandusky) is to become non smoking (designated break rooms only) the first of the year.I was thinking that was a contract item? What are the rules in your plant? Dearborn has been non smoking since the county wide law started early this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sept68 Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 (edited) I guess our plant (Sandusky) is to become non smoking (designated break rooms only) the first of the year.I was thinking that was a contract item? What are the rules in your plant? LR claims it has something to do with the insurance rating and OHSA recommendations. I only half read the memo so I don't really know for sure. My best guess is that some management will pretend not to some see smokers and some will jump at the chance to write violators up. Another way to thin the heard. A smokers will probably have to initate legal action if they want it changed. I think smoking is a nasty killer but I think the company could have at least given us 6 months notice. Edited December 25, 2005 by Blowfish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRODMOTORS Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 So healthcare costs have been rising for years, yet laborers were allowed to smoke on the job....thus contributing to costly health problems later in life? Genius! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigredogre Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 louisville assembly and kentucky truck plant are smoke free since the city of louisville passed the law :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Saline, Michigan plant became 'smoking in designated areas' about eleven years ago. Two years ago the county passed an ordinance banning smoking in all businesses except restaurants and bars. So we are smoke free now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSenstad Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 At Twin Cities it is non smoking with a couple of smoking rooms... but then they are closing Twin Cities so maybe we're not the model to choose. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigredogre Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 if you want no smoking the designated area does not work,even here at louisville they do not follow the law yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2KGT Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 We smoke on the roof or in the bathrooms. Some people smoke on the line but that is asking for a free trip home with no pay. They still smoke in the union reps office. I guess they are exempt from everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFA Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Saline, Michigan plant became 'smoking in designated areas' about eleven years ago. Two years ago the county passed an ordinance banning smoking in all businesses except restaurants and bars. So we are smoke free now. As with Saline, Rawsonville became smoke free at the same time, same county. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipefitter Posted December 27, 2005 Author Share Posted December 27, 2005 LR claims it has something to do with the insurance rating and OHSA recommendations. I only half read the memo so I don't really know for sure. My best guess is that some management will pretend not to some see smokers and some will jump at the chance to write violators up. Another way to thin the heard. A smokers will probably have to initate legal action if they want it changed. I think smoking is a nasty killer but I think the company could have at least given us 6 months notice. If it is a true health / insurance / air quality concern, that's fine if they are willing to address the Carbon Dust, Lethal Molten Plastic Fumes, and Glue and adhesives Fumes. Our plant is so full of all that crap in the air. If it is truly a health concern lets have the plant air analyzed and eliminate air bourne health hazards starting with the worst and work our way down? I'm sure cigarette smoke is probably the lowest air bourne health hazard in our plant. Has any one seen an MSDS sheet for any, or a single type of plastic, carbon, glue ect. we use, and what the health hazard ratings are for breathing the fumes of those plastic materials as it changes to a molten state? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sept68 Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 If it is a true health / insurance / air quality concern, that's fine if they are willing to address the Carbon Dust, Lethal Molten Plastic Fumes, and Glue and adhesives Fumes. Our plant is so full of all that crap in the air. If it is truly a health concern lets have the plant air analyzed and eliminate air bourne health hazards starting with the worst and work our way down? I'm sure cigarette smoke is probably the lowest air bourne health hazard in our plant. Has any one seen an MSDS sheet for any, or a single type of plastic, carbon, glue ect. we use, and what the health hazard ratings are for breathing the fumes of those plastic materials as it changes to a molten state? Everything industrial substance that Ford by extension Sandusky uses has an MSDS. I was concerned about the carbon dust so I looked up that one. The MSDS basically said the high activity carbon pellets was harmless no special handling required. The MSDS probably assumes that all the carbon remains bonded and that nothing escapes even at the molecular level. If you believe that piece of paper, employees are imagining the black buggers when they blow/pick their noses. Carbon black has been known to cause Black Lung Disease (click for info). So if you have respiratory problems later in life, you might want to mention this to your doctor. As for the glue, all application stations should have vented hoods. The different plastics (ABS, PC, ect..) all have MSDSs too. However those sheets assume that its being processed correctly and isn't scorched outside the operating parameters. Smokers won't win this battle. The argument "everything in the plant kills you" never works. The regulators may not know all about the work place but they think they know everything about cigarrettes. Cigs would already be banned now if they weren't a serious form a tax revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAC_Sparky Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 Our plant is mandatory non-smoking, but people still do. It's unfortunate in this day and age when they have to mandate something that people should be either doing of their own accord, or at least being mindful of how their bad habits affect other people around them. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escapee Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 :rolleyes: More! More! I need to see More! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipefitter Posted December 29, 2005 Author Share Posted December 29, 2005 :rolleyes: More! More! I need to see More! "Smoking Hot" I'd have no problems breathing her fumes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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