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Basically it is true, what Ford/GM/Chrysler enthusiasts have been saying for years. The Camry sucks, Toyota just makes people think its a good car. When its not.

There is a market for mid-size coupes, and I think Ford (now with Alan at the helm) will eventually get a Fusion Coupe in there. Honda, Pontiac, Nissan, they all have coupe variations of their mid-size sedans. In fact, Pontiac has G6 Sedans, Coupes, and Convertibles. Ford could do the same, with the addition of a Fusion Coupe and Convertible (its possible, and the Fusion would look and perform good in both coupe/convertible styles). Hell, Ford could run an advertising campaign telling the public that no other mid-size sedan offers the variety Fusion does (if only, if only). If Ford did introduced a convertible and coupe Fusion, that would be in addition to the Fusion Hybrid and sedan.

Yep, and even if it doesn't sport new engines, its still the most fuel efficient SUV available in America. The Toyota Highlander Hybrid is a far second, and its 2008 redesign supposedly increases the miles-per-gallon gap between it and the Escape. I think it gets like 2MPG less then the previous model. As gas prices increase, so will Escape sales. I'm surprised to see Lincoln's Mark LT sales increase. Perhaps has something to do with the Cadillac Escalade EXT getting a price bump after the '07 redesign?

Not enough competitors to make that much of a difference. You idiots make it sound as if it were just Tempo vs. Cavalier.

Sold 'well'? Sold more in its first year then the Toyota Camry and Honda Accord. Not just by a few units either, by about 100,000. Tempo was not 'earth shattering' like Taurus, but it was innovative and more likely then not, the reason Taurus ever even came to be.

Basically everything Fusion and Tempo have, Toyota, Honda and Nissan have cars that are better. Which is why they sell more. Plain and simple logic. If you build a car that's primary purpose is to fill in a spot in your line-up, it won't sell. If you build a car that is different, thats innovative and that has features no one else offers, it will sell. By today's standards, Tempo is a pos. But in 1984/1988, Tempo was basically everything you could want in a car, and more.

That says NOTHING. Ford/Dodge are gone in ten years, tops, they are hardly competitive at this point. Do you know why? Because they offer nothing like Tempo. Nothing competitive, nothing that stands out. Tempo did, in the 1980's, as did Taurus and Escort. Thus, they were record-selling cars and Fusion, Focus and Five Hundred/Taurus are not.

The only real competitors today are Ford, Chevrolet, Dodge, Toyota and Honda. In 1984 it was only really the Big Three. However, in 1988, Honda and and Toyota became very competitive. In 1988, Ford moved 425,148 Tempo's (5th best selling). At most, the market for mid-size sedans has downsized. Only a little though. Even though less makes were competitive in Tempo's time, there were also more models from each brand. Ford had Escort, Tempo, Thunderbird, Probe, Festiva, LTD/Crown Vic, Mustang and Taurus. Double today's. Same with Dodge, Chevy and Pontiac. Hell, Olds and Plymouth are gone altogether. NickF1011, you are an ignorant retard, end of story.

In 1984, Ford Pontiac Chevrolet Dodge Chrysler Mercury Toyota Honda Nissan Hyundai Kia Mitsubishi Saturn Subaru Suzuki Volkswagen Plymouth Oldsmobile I repeat; the market for mid-size sedans was no less competitive in 1984 then it is in 2007. It was the biggest market then, its the biggest market now. Excluding pickup trucks. Crossover's and SUV's were not around then (SUV's were, but they were basically just two-door truck-based V8-only monsters), but minivans were. Crossover's are the wagons of today, and with gas prices and just looking good, SUV's are on their way out. You can say that Subaru, Suzuki, et cetera were not big competitors to Tempo. However, they were. We are not talking about 1969, we are talking about 1984. Just about the time when imports started rising. The market is no smaller, and its not even like Fairmont and the LTD before Tempo sold as good as it did. You are basically saying the market was gigantic for mid-size four doors in 1984-1994, and saying any time before or after the market was tiny. Not a good excuse buddy. The only difference is in 1984, Ford ruled, and in 2007 Toyota rules.

Thats not the whole story. Today, there is: Focus Sedan Focus Coupe Taurus Sedan Fusion Sedan Mustang Crown Victoria is dead, remember? In 1984, there was: Tempo Sedan and Coupe Escort Sedan, Wagon and hatchback LTD II Sedan LTD Crown Victoria Sedan Thunderbird Coupe EXP Coupe Mustang Coupe In 1988, when the Tempo entered its second generation, there were: Tempo Sedan and Coupe Escort Sedan, Wagon and hatchback LTD Crown Victoria Sedan Thunderbird Coupe Mustang Coupe Taurus Sedan and Wagon Festiva 3/5-door hatchback/liftback And a year later, in 1989, the Probe was introduced. So no, in both 1984 and 1988 (two generations of Tempo), Ford had more cars (excluding SUV's, vans, minvans and trucks) then it does in 2007. There were just as many competitors for Tempo as there is for Fusion and Focus today. Maybe even more.

That market is no bigger today then it was in 1984. In fact, Ford had double the cars (sedans, coupes, wagons) in 1984 then it does in 2007. There was more competition for the compact four door sedan in '84, then there is today.

531,468 sold in 1984, the first year. Ford can't even dream of selling that many cars, in their first year nowadays. The first year, and it was at the 4th best selling spot.

Ford won't kill it, and if they do, they'll replace it. Ford has basically owned the compact market since the Ranger's introduction. Its too big of a segment to ignore. But then again, they did exit the minivan segment, so I suppose anything is possible.

Its a good looking car, and offers loads of features (some of which aren't available in any other crossover). I see no reason not to like it.

To us, yes, but to the average eye? My mom was unable to tell the difference between a lifted Dodge Dakota and a Ram 1500. Back in the 1960's, 1970's there was no such term as 're-badge'. Today, show a random pedestrian a Chrysler Town & Country and Dodge Grand Caravan, they won't notice any difference.

I love it, but then I also love the '84 Tempo, so my views are pretty much fucked up. Oh, the name rules, best name of any modern crossover, wagon or SUV. It is genius, but probably won't dent the Edge's sales. It will, however, hurt the Ford Taurus X sales numbers pretty bad.

Disgusting, vile, nothing makes it stand out. Just like all modern cars actually.

Ugh, no people, it does not compete with the Kia Rondo. Its bigger then Rondo. It competes with the Ford Taurus X, Hyundai Santa Fe, et cetera. It is a mid-size crossover utility vehicle, seven passenger seating, six cylinder engine. Only thing different from it and its main rivals is that it offers a four cylinder engine.

Nice try idiot, but your stupidity ruins that possibility. It was obviously not burned from the side(s), and the Tundra bed is so damn small, a Crown Victoria would never fit in it. In fact, a Smart ForTwo wouldn't fit in it.

Sport GL, I know they exist, but that picture isn't one of them. GL and Sport GL probably look very similar, but with options like the ones you listed. Probably even had a 'slightly higher output engine'. The GLS had a 100HP HSO, the GL had a 98HP HSC. However, there was no 110HP Tempo. Ever. Below is the brochure picture for the 1985 Sport GL Coupe.

It seems that all car brands only have three-five sedans/coupes/wagons in their lineup. Ford covers the basics; compact sedan and coupe, mid-size sedan and full-size sedan. They do, however, lack a mid-size coupe, a hybrid sedan, a true full-size sedan (Taurus is more mid-size then full-size) and a wagon. However, most importantly, they lack a sub-compact hatchback or coupe to compete with the Toyota Yaris and Chevrolet Aveo. In 1990 Ford had; Festiva (sub-compact), Escort (compact sedan and wagon), Tempo (compact sedan and coupe), Taurus (mid-size sedan and wagon), Crown Victoria (full-size sedan), as well as Probe, Mustang and Thunderbird. That is eight in total. Eight. Double what Ford has today. Ford's only performance/sporty car is the Mustang, which is just not enough.

ugh, too much to respond to. Well firstly, no, that silver Tempo is a 1985 Tempo GL. There were no 110HP Tempo's, there were only the 98HP, 100HP and 130HP Tempo's (excluding Diesel). I have the 1985 Tempo brochure, where that picture was taken from, and there is a rear view of the car with a GL badge clearly visible. SVT_MAN is completely right. At this point in time, Ford should not bring back Tempo. It was a huge mistake to name the Fusion what it is. It should have been Taurus. Think about it this way, a lot more people know the name 'Taurus' then 'Fusion', and most of them remember the car fondly. Particularly the people around in 1986 when the first generation was introduced. Tempo should never have been discontinued. Today very few people like Tempo/Topaz, but in 1995, people did like Tempo. If Contour had been called Tempo, they'd have sold more. The difference between Model T and Tempo (I am so disappointed in you all for not figuring it out) was that Model T is over seventy years old, and came from a time when cars were little more then motorized carriages. Tempo was around in the 1990's, and it had everything a modern car had. Most of you (the ones saying Tempo sucks) are judging them by today's standards, which will obviously make them look bad. But back in 1987, when Tempo came standard with AWD, what other compact four door sedan came standard with not only AWD, but an automatic (remember, automatics were usually optional back then), could you get? GM, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda, Nissan, none of them had All Wheel Drive in their Tempo competitors. In 1992, Tempo GLS, Topaz XR5 and Topaz LTS all had standard 3.0L V6 engines. What compact economy car in 1992 had standard V6 engines? Tempo had loads of options, standard features and it was all priced perfectly. Hell, Tempo had options you don't see in modern day cars! Power driver's seat, standard amplifier, standard power windows/locks, and back in 1984/1988 their styling was very modern. The only thing to come close was the Honda Accord. Ok, Ford should not, could not bring back the Tempo name. Its been too long. However, Ford never should have dropped the Tempo name in the first place. Very bad move on Ford's part. Contour should have been Tempo, and Contour should have been cheaper. Topaz maybe could be brought back on the Mercury line because it still sounds modern even today, and it is more sharp then 'Sable', 'Milan' and 'Mariner'.

Theres a difference between Model T and Tempo, Escort, Taurus. I really do hope you can figure out for yourself that difference.

Fairmont was on the Fox platform. Enough said. Not bring back the exact light-bar, have it renewed and look more modern. Its better then the current water-fall grill's on Mercury's.