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I agree, we are ignorant to the facts of what is really going on!

Jeff, the transferred worked great for me because I moved to Mi to work at DTP and now at LAP. I'm very grateful for the move I made to keep my union job. I got your point and I agree with you..getting out of the union is not the answer. I use the example of people that took buyouts because they were in the union at one time and now many have to deal with non union companies. Although I disagree with certain things that happened in our last contract, we still came out better by having a union.

Jeff, it is funny! People are happy about cut wages and benefits in order to attract out of state business, really? You don't have to go far to ask the questions to friends and family members that took buyouts. Ask them how are they doing on their non union JOBS compared to what they had at Ford? Ask the educated ones too! I transferred from VA a RTW state in order to keep my job. I knew I was not going to find any non union job compare or anywhere near to what I have with Ford. I totally disagree with 2nd tiers and voted against it. How many times have you guys received phone calls from people asking, how can they get back with Ford? Everyone I've talked to that worked at NAP said they would come back for $15 hour because it's better then what they are making now! I have educated friends and family members that makes a very good income but my benefits as a whole are better than theirs.

Yes!

Hughes, you are right. I wonder how many buyout people read the fine print. Ex-Ford employees can come back if they received a degree, It doesn't have to be something related to Ford. I work with three people at LAP that took the education buyouts, got their degrees and came back, two from MI and one here in Louisville. They never worked in their fields/majors and wished they never took the buyout...one is trying to get into management. Jay22, if you can not find a good paying job in Mi, move to another state. Don't let not having a job with Ford keep you from pursuing another career path. I wish you the best, God Bless you..

I use to be very positive about the union but now I wonder about the future! Not so much for myself but the new employees.

I don't understand why you republican voters don't like Bob King. He's right on point with the way the GOPs act by given everything away to the rich. You think about your dignity when it comes to voting for politicians? you must have low standards about yourself.

The Michigan truck people I worked with at DTP were asked if they wanted to return. The lady I worked across from as well as others told management no. These are Passed opportunities posted in the five years I was there, Chicago, LAP, KTP, Lima and Michigan Assembly etc.

Excellent post!

Oh, I forgot, please save your money and God Bless all of us on the next contract.

Not everyone...don't forget, the company took care of management after we sold one another out for a few $. They told us, plant closings and buyouts were supposed to take care all cuts and downsizing. I bet they sleep good at night while laughing at us!! Hmmm, tough times, plants are running 3 shifts, working 11-12 hours 7 days a week and we can't build Ford vehicles fast enough. All I'm saying is people are purchasing cars and trucks in these tough times.

Great post! Welcome to the new way forward that doesn't includes the union workers.

I replied to the post he wrote about 2 tier employees labor cost.. The permanent labor cost eliminated by the voting union members!

We know the goal of a successful business is to increase productivity by having low Labor Costs. In Ford case, the majority members were brainwashed into voting yes to take from the 2 tier employees and Ford gave raises and all benefits back to management...The costs been moved from the bottom to the top. If you read the business news, you would also know cheap labor doesn't always benefit companies " you get what you pay for".

You still believe the Labor cost lie? funny!!