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Like my mom told another autoworker's wife, people can bad mouth the UAW all they want, but if and when (hope to God they don't) they go down EVERYONE ELSE will go down with them, schools, etc. People just plain do not get the fact that the Auto Industry is the backbone of just about everything. I hate the complaining people do about wages etc. It's beyond stupid. I've been looking at teacher salaries (they are a big anti UAW group) and they have no room to talk 9 months and $60,000 salary for barely a half a year??

Is it bad that I laughed?

http://bucknakedpolitics....er-salaries-is-wrong.html

You guys already took a $10.00 an hour cut. I don't get where they think you need another one?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/11...n-auto-bailout/ Tax credit for American Cars! :happy feet:

Anybody catch that last night on MSNBC? Erin Burnett of CNBC said that although she couldn't get a confirmation from the company (SURPRISE!..HA!) she was hearing that the Prius doesn't make money for Toyota!

Sorry that was confusing.. I meant my family had a Taurus and had to get rid of it because it was too small. Yes it was pre-2008 Taurus. Then I went on to say that our town replaced one of the cop cars with an Impala over a CV.

The Taurus is NOT the same size as a CV, we had one after a CV and had to get rid of it because it was too small. Our town replaced their one cop car with a Chevy Impala.

What the heck are we going to drive if they all go under? I will NOT buy/ride/drive in a foreign piece of crap car!

$15.00 an hour didn't cut it at the Sandusky plant for Electrician new hires. They said shove it and left.

Are you for real?? Never voted for a contract? Good freakin' grief!

This made my blood boil! http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/11/20/honda.town/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/11/20/honda.town/index.html

Health insurance will be gone right? For Retirees.

BOTH camps have DENIED the Columbia Free Trade and a Auto Industry bailout link. http://money.cnn.com/2008/11/11/news/econo...sion=2008111114

GM Lordstown to lay off more than 1,000 Posted By: Dick Russ 1 hr ago Read Comments Print Article Email Article Larger Smaller LORDSTOWN -- The General Motors assembly plant in Lordstown will layoff between 1,000 and 1,100 hourly workers, along with an undisclosed number of salaried employees. The layoffs will take effect on January 20, 2009 according to Ray Young, GM's Chief Financial Officer, who made the announcement during a conference call Friday afternoon. GM today reported a loss of $2.5 billion in the third quarter and warned it may run out of cash in 2009. The Lordstown cuts will include employees of the Assembly Plant and the adjacent metal fabricating plant. General Motors says it burned through nearly $7 billion dollar in cash during the previous quarter, and at that rate would have enough cash left for only another seven months. The Lordtown complex currently has about 5,000 hourly and salaried workers, including 1,400 who were brought in during August when a new third shift was added. Channel 3 News will have reaction from auto workers in Lordstown at 6 p.m. © 2008 WKYC-TV http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/news_articl...69&catid=45

We buy new.

I need a minivan! I'm running out of Ford options very fast.

My dad who is a 32 year UAW employee says it makes no sense to lease a vehicle. You constantly have a car payment and for every mile you go over the limit you pay extra for.

Ford was poised to be the # 1 Automaker until the bottom fell out after 9-11.

Doesn't help that dealers can't get them on the lot.

Where we buy our vehicles, the Flex they had didn't last 24 hours. Someone drove it and bought it.

They are closing 3 plants which is going to basically shut down GM. Dad came home with that lovely news today.

It was all black it looked pretty nice. Didn't make a good impression with my mom though. I told her that will be our next vehicle since there are no more mini-vans and my chair won't fit in the Edge. She didn't like the Flex at all...EEK! She said it looked like a war vehicle!

ACH deal with UAW in works By ANNIE ZELM | Tuesday June 17 2008, 1:28am SANDUSKY A new contract appears to be the vehicle that would allow a local automotive facility to keep its doors open at least five more years. Members of UAW Local 1216 are scheduled to discuss details of the tentative agreement between the union and Automotive Components Holdings that would keep jobs in Sandusky and potentially add others. A letter of understanding addressed to UAW vice president Bob King discusses a competitive operating agreement and confirms Ford Motor Company's plan to "source the P473 (Ford F250 and F350) and U502 (Explorer) lighting programs to the Sandusky Plant," as well as a D258 rear lamp deck lid. The insourcing of these lighting operations would add 140 new jobs if the contract is ratified and would save 115 jobs that would have been lost to outsourcing, according to a 2013 Visibility Agreement outlined in the contract. But workers' opinions of the contract are varied, depending largely upon their status with the company. Some with seniority as Ford employees say the agreement is a positive step toward keeping jobs in the area and may be the best the option the union has, given the state of the automotive industry. "It's better than being shipped off to Rawsonville (Mich.) or anywhere else," said a Ford assembler, who has worked at the company for eight years and declined to give her name because she was not authorized to speak with the media. For temporary employees, however, it doesn't offer much. "It's good for Ford, but not for us," said a temporary assembler, who accepted a position with the company a little more than a year ago. "They're telling me I still won't have benefits after another five years -- it's just buying me time to get the hell out of here." Another temporary assembler called the agreement "a joke" and said he had no plans to sign it -- although he didn't think it would matter, since the number of Ford employees outnumber temporary workers. The 1.2 million-square-foot facility employs approximately 1,000 workers, 250 of whom are temporary workers on an hourly wage. One assembler of four years, who started as a temporary employee for Visteon and was later granted the status of a Ford employee, said although the agreement now is disheartening for temps, there may be some hope in sight. "From what I understand, there will be some provisions to allow temp employees to become Ford later on," he said. "But when they were hired, they knew they were only temporary -- they weren't guaranteed anything." ACH acquired the plant in 2005 to restructure it and market it for sale. The company owns 10 other automotive plants, three of which are scheduled to be idled by the end of the year in southeast Michigan, ACH spokeswoman Della DiPietro said told the Register previously. DiPietro was not available for comment Monday, and the spokesman serving in her place did not return calls. UAW Local 1216 president Kevin Furr also did not return calls for comment. The tentative agreement states it would secure new work for union members, while also offering the option of buyouts if the agreement is ratified. Other stipulations of the proposed contract include: * Strengthening a promotional job bid process to prevent possible abuse of the "merit and ability" clause -- preventing senior employees from being overlooked for a job because of the ability of an individual with lower seniority. * Increasing wages on 185 production jobs with new occupational groupings. * Further plans to prevent additional outsourcing by allowing certain responsibilities to be reassigned. * Improving some production associate protections, including a stipulation that allows them to call in 15 minutes prior to the start of their shift to use one day of unpaid personal time. * A rehire procedure for workers who are displaced through 2013. * Several health and safety improvements, including regular testing of drinking water, additional training for the Fire Brigade, the installation of two new ice machines and improvements to the women's restroom. http://www.sanduskyregister.com/articles/2...ront/795328.txt