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Sounds like ur dumb ass neighbors didn't decide to by a Ford cause of our concessions in 08 then either. So tell them I said they are dumb fucks that have supported foreign economies and shit on their own Michigan economy. Seems like they are selfish dickbags and I don't care what the fuck they think of me cause they've already proven their ignorance in their reasons for buying products. I'm sure they think Allen and Bill deserve $100,000,000 for the hard work they do at Ford tho... Ask ur neighbor if he's worried about his gas pedal sticking or the fact that Toyota made excuses while putting peoples lives at risk. So did you Len sit there and bad mouth your union brothers with them and call yourself overcompensated and tell them your glad you are taking concessions so they will buy a Ford next time...? I'm sure ur other neighbors who took a buyout didn't mind taking a generous union negotiated buyout. FYB Len...

The iuaw shouldn't have put us in a position to even consider voting this down. I won't vote for public perception. It wouldn't have taken much more to make this contract solid but they didn't. Just remember that when this contract gets done and they tell us sorry no grievance for you. All the yes voters will be saying " that's okay Ford is fair with us" . I doubt it, they will wish they could change their vote...

Wait for it. Boy are u way off with your 11 posts...

The people who actually read this agreement generally don't like it and are voting no... Those who don't read it are favoring yes until they ask why I don't like it. The first thing I tell them is "read it, all of it, even the deleted language which means language that is gone." Then I tell them " then you tell me what you think about it." Some choose not to. for why? Then those that do don't like it...the numbers will tell and if they would have told us what the results of the grievance hearing on Sept. 15th this contract would fail by 99%... At least there's time to go back to the table and rectify a few things , not just we'll pay ya any remaining vacation time Ull have left come June/December...

Dislike my comment all u want, but it sure looked like they all had nothing better to do for 45 minutes except stand there and make sure we did our job... They should be doin what they're supposed to be doing. I'm sure there is a reason they're here and none of them was my boss so their jobs are not to watch me for the duration of my job.... Id have no complaint If its just the line supervisor...... Just like our TENTATIVE agreement states, a FULL UTILIZATION of the workforce, or is it just the hourly workforce. If they're paying all those people to stand there and watch me, then their priorities are all backwards... Most of those positions were filled after they cut the hourly workforce numbers... They have an area manager that nobody wants to deal with ,hourly or management, they give him a title and just allow him to be... No power to even make decisions anymore, they took that from him..

It happened yesterday and I was thinking of my post in this thread . Major breakdown , there was an area manager, superintendent,MPS, 2 line supers all standing there watching. Hands in their pockets saying " how could this have been avoided?" That's what they offered up... So I added it up in my mind... Yep I will assume that's close to a million in salary. With car programs , bonuses, options, matching 401, and salary and not one of them got the line up and running, my partner and I did.... After it was done not one said anything about how a problem was lessened by our hard work and sweat. I dont want an atta boy but zero acknowledgement only reaffirms the way I feel and how I'm goin to vote. The company keeps their salaries secret for a reason , so we don't truly know what they make. Unlike our salaries that are our out for the world to see and be critical of.. I also read and understand there is a $12,000 cap on profit share....

Well said. I'm with ya on that.... I see daily about a million $ in salary stand around and be critical and condescending towards every hourly employee in sight. Then I think , " is that value added??" My answer is no, not really. None of them are doing anything to rectify the problem at hand or move those parts down the line... I only need one of them and that's to pay me and get outta the way.....

The top 1% earn 24% of the income in this country cause idiots like you are so drunk off the koolaid you think it should be that way. Keep being a sheep so that number reaches 50%... I for one believe we deserve better treatment for the hard work we do while making this company leaner and more competitive. WE move this company forward as much as Allen,Bill or Marty... It's time we are afforded the respect we've earned...

Thanx for thinking so highly of us mentally challenged, Dickface...

I'm retarded, and I'm fine with that.... :hyper:

I'm glad that the new hires might be able to afford a 90% foreign part Mexican made fiesta after the $500 car voucher....

I will not vote for this contract to appease foreign car driving idiots that already don't support is or this American economy... I will vote for what is right for my family and my brothers and sisters... On sure Allen and Bill will make a billion over four years by the time this contract ends. And hell they already proven that if times are bad they will open it up and ask for concessions. I'm voting for Fords current situation. I'm sure in 2 years when they are making 20 billion a year the union will not demand they open the contract to compensate us when they are making record profits from our continual and progressive concessions....

Um, NO..... Concessions are concessions no matter what color you paint the pig....

I dont care who makes it, if its Foreign im not buying it! That includes Fusion, Fiesta, Transit, C-max and all Mazda's except for a Mazda 6! And no I dont put Canada in that category! Keep those POS's just like any Toyota or VW!!!

Just a note to all who deface or tear down peoples letters and literature, If I catch you spineless disrespectful anti-union selfish weasels destroying ANYONES campaign letters. I will personally out you and turn your ass in to whomever your disrespecting! Because of your behavior unbecoming you should not call yourself A local 2280 UAW or Ford Member! If your caught it will be while nobodies around (Cause thats how you operate) Then nobody will see your ass get kicked either!!! :slap: