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While the accident was tragic, it's unbelievable that a California Highway Patrol Officer, trained in high speed driving, how to make a routine traffic stop safe, how to control a car during a skid , how to do a "pit move" during a car chase, didn't have the frame of mind or training just to reach over and turn off the ignition............

Your right. The Toyota bashing will continue no matter what. They will still sell a ton of the Camrys and Corollas no matter what the nay sayers on this board rant about.

Don't they sell a significant number of these?

Didn't they try at Saturn of "driving a Camry" right there on the lot before you purchased a Saturn? Didn't a significant number of people leave after the test drive and purchase another vehicle? IT'S A TRUST, QUALITY, PRODUCT ISSUE!!!

As an '05 Sport Edition 4Runner owner w/V8 and 2WD, if this is what it looks like, it's another mistake for Toyota. Also, it looks like there will not be a V8 from everything I have read.

In So. Cal people are somehow mistaken that there isn't a speed limit in the carpool lane. Drive those speeds long enough and you will be pulled over! The CHP calls the freeway near San Juan Capistrano "The fish Barrel". So many speeders they just take their pick!!

Most people thought that a "lifetime warranty" as useless with an automaker who won't be around as we know it. Fiat, certainly doesn't want the long term liability.

I would say the motorcyclist is going to be much more aware of their surroundings (and I know all are) than someone who drives what he/she thinks is an automobile.

Since just about anything on the road weighs more than this thing...here's my review: "Your not too smart if you buy a SMART!"

In that case don't buy any underwear, shoes, dental floss (yep-bought some made in china) t-shirts,etc. from Kohls, Walmart, Target, Kmart, etc., etc., etc., you will be putting money in the hands of those Chinese that have a terrible human rights record. Respectfully sir, while I appreciate your comments, they are at best old fashion and out of date.

So what's American? The Chevy pickup put together in Mexico or the Honda Accord put together in Ohio?

I understand trying to help the needy. I'm all for that by doing other things. Putting these cars back on the road is unsafe. I drive 125 to 150 miles a day in Industrial Sales. I see these type of cars all day long - no tread on the tires, broken/cracked glass, belching smoke (not to mention probably no insurance or under insured). These things need to be taken off the road and I am glad they are.

Who on this board said these cars should be donated to those less fortunate? Most of these cars are pieces of junk and belong off the road. I am sue they MAY Be a few GEMS! But I have seen a few clunkers on dealer lots as well, and I think the condition of those represented are pretty much the sum of what is being traded in. Personally, this is a disaster waiting to happen. This will be the same as housing. There are people getting in to new cars through the "clunker" program that should be buying used. But "used cars" don't qualify. How many of these new purchases are going to be "repod" 12 to 18 months down the road!!

I feel this is a biased post. THERE ISN'T ANY INTERIOR WORSE THAN A COBALT!

Yep, I am sure that Hyundai hasn't taken ONE FORD sales

It sounds like the Sedona did what it was designed to do. You can probably buy two of these (with all the rebates they pile on) for the price of most of the Flex I have seen on dealer lots.

I agree with both of you. There are some who really bash these cars. But even though most car companies are having their trials at this time, Toyota and Honda were both bashed as well back when. Hyundai doesn't offer 100K warranty expecting to pay out too much of the time.

So it's less than a great car but people continue to buy them. Other auto makers should be so lucky.

Is there a minimum on how much stock you need to purchase?

It looks like a competitive product. I wonder how much in rebates will come with it from the get go?

If the numbers say they are selling more in Southern California....I can't argue with that. But driving around town (I drive 100-150 miles a day) you just don't see them. Every Ford dealer I pass (yes...I do notice) has several in inventory. I hate the styling. I'd still take the Expedition.

Many, many Flex sitting on the dealer lots in Southern California. It seems to me the Flex is an answer to a question no one is asking. Where were the focus groups on this one? It's over priced, not attractive to look at, says it will tow I believe 5,000 pounds but wouldn't want to do that with FWD. And doesn't get great mpg. Give me an Expedition any day for not that much more dollars.

Are they going to sell this next to the Elantra? Maybe buy one of these and get an Elantra for FREE!!

Yes, and the last generation Thunderbird sold over sticker and look at the prices now. Once supply catches up with demand the idiots who paid over sticker will once again get screwed. IT DOESN'T PAY TO BE THE FIRST ON YOUR BLOCK!!!!!!