Deanh

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my angst is aimed SPECIFICALLY at Tesla, how its run and all the bravado and ego centric blabber that deflects from how badly it is run as a company...absolutely NOTHING against EVs at all, barring those that think they are the absolute Hokly Grail...they are not ....although as I stated, I believe ultimately Hybrids are a better all round alternative to straight ICE.

that I cannot confirm....truth be told, never demonstrated the system...freaks me out too much. Ok, just looked up Active Park Assist 2.0, all you do once its found a spot is put the trans in neutral and hold a button down...vehicle does everything.....switches from forward to reverse, brakes ...everything...

you use the turn signal to indicate which side you are looking for the space. Then the system will inform you if it finds an adequate space. Then you pull forward and put trans in reverse. Wheel will turn on its own and the sensors will inform you when to brake, and switch trans from reverse to forward...weird seeing the wheel have a mind of its own.

comedy...we had a gentleman come in specifically to try the self parking feature, salesman took it for granted he knew he had to control the brakes...he didn't....3 cars were damaged on the lot. And he refused to accept responsibility. The new/ latest version brakes for you...all you are in charge of is forward and reverse,

the latest version does everything...brakes and everything....little dis-concerting for me...does that label me a control freak?.

oh, and jpd80...congrats on making the 1/4 finals.

high hopes for sure...just to quieten the Tesla cultists.....but jurys out until we actually get our hands on the product to see if it lives up to comparison...I just hope they have a normal dash board, the trend of huge tablets is just an invitation for distracted driving... ESPECIALLY if it supplies ALL information and requires eyes to go from anything but straight ahead..

and no one, anywhere, in my lifetime...will convince me to embrace autonomous driving....that's got disaster and lawsuits written all over it...same with "hail your car"....which is working out just jim dandy...

we quite often tell cash buyers there are additional rebates if you only finance for a short time...interest on 3 or so payments is somewhat less than the $1000 rebate they get if they finance through Ford at regular rates...

well put, can agree with a majority of that...but imagine how much more successful tesla would have been if they franchised….even their glorious leader has stated that ultimately will happen when sales numbers require it. They would have had a far superior infrastructure, removed massive financial responsibility and had Dealers in basically every state no problem. Would've had service bays everywhere, removed the overheads of land leases, property costs, construction costs, employee overheads etc etc etc.....they could have then concentrated on what they should have...investing in their product, its quality and distribution. Im actually surprised they have remained afloat. And FWIW, I actually like the product...its just not the Holy Grail all the owners are dead set on convincing everyone, think it is. But I do agree, the brand HAS lit a fire under the segment. Will be interesting how Tesla handles the influx of competition in a niche they have pretty much had to themselves for so long.

? not sold at all...and that stems from every tesla owner Ive met attempting to convince everyone around them how much better their car is than everyone elses...news flash...its not...same with every enthusiast website or blog...Tesla trolling...Ive been in the car...its nice...the best?...no, Ive been impressed more by other makes and models...owners need to get over themselves , that said...its predominantly the S and X owners with their noses in the Air. And Elon does absolutely no favors to the brands stigma either...I will also repeat what I stated...there are a multitude of cars which offer a more enjoyable driving experience, on the road and on the track that are significantly less money...but Ive yet to see the Tesla model that would level that field from a price standpoint yet...y'know...that $35k odel that apparently got 180000 reservations....ahem. And tell me...how exactly has Tesla "stuck it to the germans"...they all outsell and out profit tesla quite substantially, have better fit and finish, are more upmarket, utilize better quality materials and have a better infrastructure of Dealers and Service facilities. And no offence, sorry to burst your bubble, but this is EXACTLY what I mean about tesla owners....they get on every Car site just to tell people how good they think THEIR car is in comparison with everything else.

and Id rather own any one of those over a Tesla for enthusiast reasons....love to see a head to head on a track, and a Tesla with a raptor off road would be humorous....even with the Raptor towing a dolly because theres no charging station in the dunes....

Tesla did NOT invent the Electric car...but I will give them credit for upping the ante and lighting a fire under the segment. And performance isn't only in a straight line....theres are a multitude of vehicles which aren't as quick in a straight line that would eat the tesla for lunch on a track or a winding mountain road, that are more enjoyable for enthusiasts. Electric is, IMO, NOT the Future yet, and wont be for a while...I believe Hybrids are more viable, it will take decades before plug in stations match the convenience of a regular gas station. And I for one wouldn't buy any vehicle where I have to plot out where and when I am obliged to stop knowing what my range is. Anything with an ICE doesn't have that issue. As for Harley...their electric bike is failing miserably, so Im not sure that should be used as an example...or Faraday, or Dyson....Fisker, Aptera, Coda...Detroit Electric....

and every single one of those is a more enjoyable ride....and Ive yet to hear one owner tell me theirs is the "best car in the world"...theres certain egos yes...but they pale in comparison to most tesla owners....and I don't recall Ford ever going 14 quarters without turning a profit....