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What job do you want them to do? They do what the people want them to do. When only 1% show up at meeting, all is considered happy. When was the last time 99% of you on here did anything to support the Union? Have you volunteered for any of the commitees? Have you ran for election? You all complain complain complain but wont do anything to address your issues or fix them. Singular and personal issues wont be addressed because 99% of the time the fix only benefits the singular issuer. disgusted with the BON-employee forum........ Tapper

My stub says Christmas bonus.

Ohio, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Illinois and California are the next targets on the GOP RTW hit list!

Lets see, the RTW movement in Michigan seems to have won their fight. UAW member, Terry Bowman has given his thumbs up because he thinks he can get a better deal than what the UAW has negotiated. Well, Mr. Bowman, do you really think that any company is going to negotiate with you, one-on-one? They're not going to get you your own healthcare, vison, dental, pension, 401K, sick days, family days, holidays plan. Go ahead, have a dis-agreement with your boss, lets see who you call as your third party representative as he tosses you out the door. He claims it will help his children, but yet when his kids can only find minimum wage jobs because RTW creates a lot of them, then it will be egg on his face. BTW, minimum wage (or the elimination there of) will be the next attack on workers! Mr Bowman, if you dont like what the UAW does with your dues dollars, then go to your local and ask for a refund of the portion not directly associated with the collective bargaining process. By law, you are allowed that amount back. When you retire, refuse that pension check or any retiree healthcare you are due. Hope you saved up enough cash to live during your golden years. The GOP got a guy like you to do their dirty work. You fell for it. In 15 years when you want to retire and nothing is left, the finger will be pointed at you! more to come, Tapper

Whatever Rep has told you that you dont get a lunch break is wrong (if one did indeed tell you that) and should read the national agreement about breaks. Tapper

Sharonville isnt on a 2 on - 2 off schedule. They are following the National agreement schedule for a 4 crew pattern. Week 1 crews A&C work Tues, Weds, Sat, Sun. Week 2 crews A&C work Mon, Thurs, Fri. Week 1 crews B&D work Mon, Thur, Fri. Week 2 crews B&D work Tues, Weds, Sat, Sun This schedule gets you the first 10 hours at straight time, the last 2 hours of the day at time and a half overtime each day except Sunday where the last 2 hours of the day are double time. The week where you work 3 days, you get 32 regular hours and 6 hours at time and a half. The week where you work 4 days, you get 40 regular hours, 6 hours at time and a half and 2 hours at double time. Also, if you work your Regular Day Off (RDO) #1 and RDO #2 you get time and a half for all 12 hours worked. If you are on the week where you get 4 RDO's then #3 RDO is double time and #4 RDO is double time as well. So you have the potential to get 2 double time days in a week as opposed to one (Sunday) on a traditional schedule. Also gone are the forced 2 Saturdays in a row. 5am - 5pm start/quit for days - 5pm - 5am start/quit for nights. (plant voted on this). YES, you get a lunch and several breaks (unlike a previous posting says you dont). Per conversations from those Ive spoken with, they seem to like having the extra time off and the opportunity for more overtime through the week and still having weekends (if they are off Sat & Sun) off. Tapper

As for Gary W. being a republican, farther from the truth! He actually communist, and he is behind the 'Spark' letters distributed by the lady every 2-3 weeks. He seems to want to bankrupt the company and if he doesnt see the forest through the trees, he just might find himself in the unemployment line (soup-bread line) one day. Tapper DTP-Body C-Crew

Look for the Mustang to be built in Louisville. At CSP, they are installing assembly lines for body panels, cowl-dash, door & hood lines (and its all called 'The Louisville Project" and the 100 or so from Louisville that are going back soon are happy as hell! But I could be wrong. Anyone from CSP care to confirm or deny? Tapper

Ford has seen the light with mexican produced parts just as Chrysler did in the late 90's with the Neon. Junk parts put together with shiney paint = junk cars. Ford assembles the Fusion/Fiesta there but the engine\trans comes from the U.S. and alot of the parts do as well. They brought the lighting systems back to Sandusky because of the 800 to1 bad - good parts ratio. The lines were moved to Sandusky and from what I know, the bad - good parts ratio is 1 - 600. Sounds like they did the right thing! Tapper DTP/Body C-Crew

So if we stop the sales of ALL foreign cars, then the Fusion, Lincoln MKZ, Edge, Flex, Transit (variations of) & Crown Vic - (whats left of them) couldnt be sold under your proposal. I dont like Toyota-Honda-Hyundai either but politicians (both parties) are to blame for just about any industry failures in the United states by allowing the companies to leave here and manufacture overseas with cheap labor and NO COMMITMENT to the workforce! Tapper, DTP/Body C-Crew

No, You didnt read that in 2014 that GM workers go into Obamacare. The UAW and their health plans are exempt from Obamacare. All Union plans are exempt because we have better plans than the health exchange will have. I think you're either mis-informed (about Obamacare in general) or just stirring the pot! Tapper DTP/Body C-Crew

My neighborhood has 113 homes in it. 21 were/are Ford employees. When our plant closed, 13 of the 21 homes went into foreclosure (whole different issue). We have 3 school teachers in my neighborhood. All three drive toymotors. 1 of the three lived between 2 of the foreclosed homes of former Ford employees. The same teacher moans and groans about her property value decrease and to this day, doesnt understand what she drives DOES affect her neighborhood. Now, if she would have bought a Ford, would she still live in the same situation, YES. But if she and all Americans had bought Ford or any of the Big 3, 2007 concessions would have not been needed and chances are the plant would still be opened because of sales volumes. Easy to figure out. As for the Gov. being recalled, doubt it will happen. Koch bros will pump so much money into Michigan for him to stay in office, you wont know what hit you! Teachers, nurses, firefighter, cops and city-county-state workers arnt being asked to give up wages. They are being stripped of all collective bargaining rights with no voice in the workplace, regardless of it being public vs private. Look at Wisconsin, Ohio and New Jersey. First thing they cut wasnt wages and benefits, it was dues collections. Thats all they were really after as they no Unions almost always support Democrats. Tapper

First off, its all on averages: (examples used are rounded numbers, and arnt actual numbers, just being used as an example) example A: If tier 1 worker makes $29.00hr wage + cost of healthcare + pension payments = $58.00 per hour example B: If tier 2 woker makes $15.51hr wage + cost of 80/20 healthcare plan (tier 2 has a different plan) + 401(k) contribution ((no pension for tier 2 employees)) = $28.00 per hour A + B / 2 = per hour cost. $58 + $28 = $86 / 2 = $43 Simple to figure out. As for why do we have tier 2? Its easy, those in Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama & Mississippi have all agreed to do the same type work we do for half the wage and benefits. Its called the UAW sat on its butt in the 80's and didnt put a real effort to organizing the transplants. The UAW as did the Big 3 thought those companies wouldnt last as long as they have (go to the wayside like VW did in Pennsylvania). When the UAW saw that the transplants were here to stay, it was too late as the Japs had made wages and benefits so close to those of UAW represented workers, the transplant workers didnt feel the need for the UAW. Also, when you take the folks from the mountains and fields, pay them $14 - $18hr to work in a factory when they have grown up generation after generation of farming and coal mining, they dont want to rock the boat to try to have UAW representation. they are the first generation of their bloodlines to move out of the shack-trailors and into real homes, send their kids to decent schools/colleges and get real health care as opposed to a charity clinic that shows up once a month at the local fire department. Also, the towns and cities where these plants are located now have streets lined with gold, where they have never been able to have street lights, actual asphalt, businesses popping up. I undestand why politicians are they way they are about the jap plants (although I theorectically disagree) Tapper

I question how the big 3 negotiations are tied to the organizing drive but my speculation is 1 big multi-employer pension plan, mult-employer active/retiree health care fund, multi-employer -a cross the board agreement for wages/ work rules (basically - one company goes on strike, they all do). The multi-employer pension fund would be great if the japs had their employees involved because if they make money and the Big 3 doesnt, the Big 3 retirees still collect a pension. Im thinking Bob king is looking to Germany and how their Union's are set up and run. The caveat to the multi-employer stuff is, look at the trucking industry. YRC Trucking (Yellow/Roadway/USF) is the last big company to belong to a national master freight agreement (Teamsters). ABF & UPS/UPS Freight (formerly Overnite) are now on their own agreements because of the Central States Health & Pension fund collapse. Preston, CF, Churchill, Ryder-PIE all went out of business and they all claim (in bankruptcy court) it was because of the multi employer labor agreements. Interesting to see how this plays out. But my guess is not one will sign the principals and the right to work foundation will be right behind the japs/koreans with their pocketbooks to fund anti-organizing drives like they always do. Tapper.......