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Mine is off, especially on the right side. It closes fine. I will talk to the dealer when I bring it for service the first time but, based on previous experiences with other cars, not expecting much.

I think it is possible, but couldn't they rate separately the Titanium Hybrids instead ? Toyota does exactly that with the Camry Hybrid LE (43/39) vs XLE (40/38)

Interesting... All this while, my speculation has been that Ford appears to be dragging their feet on the Hybrid Titanium because it couldn't possibly meet the 47/47/47 mpg claim Ford seems intent to plaster on the Hybrid Titanium windows stickers. But that's because I assumed the Hybrid Titanium on its own (at least a minimally configured one) had to meet whatever what's in the sticker. From what you said, it seems this assumption was wrong. Now, part of the reason I assumed that is Toyota has different EPA ratings for the Camry Hybrid trims (43/39 LE, 40/38 XLE if I recall correctly). So I thought this is what everybody is supposed to do. Aparently, it's more complicated than that. Akirby, care to elaborate how different trims (and, god forbid, options) of a model have to be reflected on EPA ratings? And, would Ford have discretion to mimic Toyota and have a separate rating for the Hybrid Titanium (presumably lower)?

Congrats! I knew you would get the X-plan pricing and it shouldn't be too hard. Not that it makes any difference - I'm just curious about the whole process - but did you ever find out if your X-plan order counts or not against the dealer's allocation ?

It's all a bit academic and it's easy to get lost as the dates change so much.But linked thread(s) was what I was referring to as "official rumour" of production starting Jan 7th. It seemed pretty reliable, at the time. http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index.php?/topic/51746-actual-2013-ford-fusion-hybrid-titanium-production-start-date/ But I am hopeful you'll all get your Ti Hybrids in (early) April. And those who wait will love it. For me it would have been the wrong decision - 3 additional months of waiting for a difference that boils down to a few (nice, I must say) interior features. On the exterior, on balance I actually like the SE with luxury package/wheels marginally better than the Hybrid Ti with stock wheels. At least under daylight. At night, you can't see the wheels and the Ti has cooler looking taillights :-)

Dates have changed quite a bit but for a while (like late Nov) the "official rumour" in these forums pointed to production starting in Jan 7th. With scheduling sometime before that, late in Dec, before the Xmas break. I remember clearly because at that point it was clear I would only get my SE order in early Jan (and, I did, on Jan 3rd) and, for a while, I seriously considered reordering as Ti, since the additional delay could be, with luck, only a month or so.

Those initial tens of miles might affect your "lifetime average" for a surprisingly long time, even though they are otherwise irrelevant. I picked my '11 FFH with 78 miles and a lifetime mpg of 13-14. I reset one of the counters (the "average mpg") at around mile 100. And kept that for a while to track "my" lifetime mpg with the car. They only converged somewhere between miles 5000 and 10000. Similarly with the new one - picked up with 22 miles and lifetime mpg 13-14. This time I reset the counter immediately, at the dealer. 1000 miles later, the "average" mpg(i..e. since I picked up the car) is 39.2. The "lifetime" is still catching up at 37.4 So you can do that (or dedicate one of the trip computers) if at all interested in have an easy way look at "your" lieftime average with the car, in the first few k miles. More importantly, you seem to be off to a great start, so enjoy the car! I know am enjoying mine. Somehow I've been piling up miles quicker than usual :-)

Strange. I just checked mine briefly on both sides and, for the most part, it seems to be glued all the way through. With exception of the very top - as in if you follow your "was connected at be very top" arrow and then go up a bit (like 1/4 inch). That tip seems to be a bit loose there. EDIT - looked again with more time and I don't think it's glued. There are a few attachment points and now I understand betterwhat you said. There are 5 or 6 and all of them are attached on mine. It seems the 2 in the mid-section of your car aren't. Not normal, imo

I agree with that. As far as I remember, every car I've had seemed to believe the "upper half" of the tank was bigger than the "bottom half". The '13 Fusion may just be a bit different in that respect. I also think there is something else going on, based on my limited experience so far (2 fill ups on my hybrid). The first fill up fell below full on the gauge astonishingly quickly - like 3 miles or so (and it was above full as I pulled out of the gas station). The second fill up got to that point with a more reasonable 20-25 miles. Based on that and other calculations, I estimate the tank was about 0.5 gallon fuller after the second fill up. And if I worked at it, I could probably have squeezed in a bit more. In previous vehicles, at least based on "how long does it take for the gauge to drop below full", I was able to get more consistent "fullness" across different fill ups (including a '11 FFH), without really worrying or workin on it. The '13 FFH seems a bit finicky with respect tot the pump and/or yoru technique. Still, not a big deal in my eyes.

Mine is Hybrid SE, not Titanium. There's about 1/4 inch of exposed wires on the mirror end on mine. Those are for auto dimming mirrors, right?

I think the Ti seats are full leather too. They look a tad facier than SE but everybody in the family loves the SE seats, especially the warmers (which may not be popular in CA...). Car looks great! I hope you get it. Love the clear interior but for me, after 3 cars with clear leather interiors, it was time to get black a change (which I am enjoying too).

Congrats! Great car, great pictures. And, of course, love the red...

Congrats raleel! Your car finally made it!I remember when we were all tracking builds and shipments back in Nov/Dec. For a while I thought your car and mine were jumping on the same train from Mexico (actually more like hoping, yours was built a week earlier than mine, if I remember right). But it's here, I'm sure you will love it, and a few extra weeks wait will soon be distant memories. Enjoy! Do post pictures. I don't know where you are in WA, but perhaps we will bump into each other soon. I've seen 5 other '13 Fusions on the road this week.

Plus they get the infamous "dealer holdback", right, X-plan or not? Honest question, I don't really know. If so, I think that turns out to be about $900 more to the dealer, from the invoice the dealer showed me for the car I test drove. I wholeheartdly agree with penny wise, pound foolish. And I actually suspect "long run" is not really all that long. A dealer nearby is already advertising $1000 dealer discount from MSRP on '13 FFH (plus applicable rebates) That's already less than 1000 over X-Plan (X-plan was slightly less than 2k under MSRP). Factoring X-plan spiff, difference is probably 600 or so to the dealer. Between their web ad price and X-plan. I have no doubt anybody can walk in there today and get any of those units (most seem to be in transit) at X-plan. Just like you did with you Titanium (congrats, btw. Hope to see pictures soon, love the red :-) ). 3.5 months ago, same dealer took well over a week to get back to me and confirm they would take my order at X-plan pricing. Consequently, I placed the order at another dealer. Since I don't think it would have counted against their allocation, I fail to understand what they accomplished (or expected to, at the time) in business terms. So, Richard, keep trying. Or wait a bit. At least, that's what I'd do, based on my own experiences.

Yes, I think the orders (or at least mine - hybrid, x-plan) were subject to that verification program. And in my case, that apparently wasn't known to the dealer at the time of the order. They called me back a week or so after the order to sign a "purchase order", saying it was a Ford requirement they didn't know about. I agree with your observation re allocation. I certainly think mine didn't count or else I doubt either dealer would sell at that price.

Hmmm. The dealer that took my order on the Hybrid SE said the exact opposite - in years past, it used to count against allocation, now (or then, it was in October) it doesn't, so it is easier to get an order on X-Plan for new models.. A second dealer, after dragging their feet for a few days, said they would take an order on X-Plan (by then, I had already placed the order on the first one). So, maybe it changed (back). Maybe it depends on the model (the dealer that took my order only mentioned the usual exclusions from X-Plan). Or, perhaps, it's bs on either of the dealers part. If I were you, I wouldn't give up (yet)....

Could it be configuration? Mine shows it, but the trip display is configured to "enhanced", as opposed to "standard". "Standard" does not show gallons or mpg. To configure it, just click the right arrow when you have that trip computer on the screen. Mine also is a hybrid, which may (unlikely) be behave differently.

My VOC (I bought through X-Plan) has 2 columns: 'RETAIL' and 'DLR INV'. The 'DLR INV' column has separate lines with values for: 'TOTAL', 'A/Z PLAN', 'D PLAN' and 'X PLAN'.

I decided to dedicate "trip 2" to track each tank.It should be comparable to Fuelly. Well, if "full" is at least consistent from tank to tank. Else, as you say, it should even out over time. For this tank, 40.5 mpg so far.

I guess this is the "new normal" for previous FFH owners. I see in your Fuelly signature you're averaging 43.1 mpg. That's a great result imho for the conditions - new car, winter and all. If I get that much lifetime (or really anything over 40), I will be happy in that department. Currently sitting at 38.8 (and climbing slowly) - according to the computer, since taking delivery. Not really hypermiling (actually driving a bit faster than with old car), bigger wheels/ tires, cold (colder than usual last 10 days). Looks promising.

First fill up yesterday for my Hybrid. DTE indicating 3 miles. 10.74 gallons (second click). 438 miles on the odometer - took delivery with 22, so it was last filled sometime (probably shortly) before that. The fuel gauge did go above F. But very briefly, it was below F by the time I got home (like 5 miles). Fuel gauge seems to be coming down relatively fast, for the 35 miles or so I've driven since Based on looking at these threads, it could well be it clicks too early in some (most?) pumps. And doesn't really fill to capacity (at least, not without a lot of effort). I didn't try the "slow pump squeeze". And probably won't - my biggest concern while refueling was making sure not a single drop of gas met the paint.... If I could squeeze in an extra 0.8 gallons, would be right about the 11.5 I would expect with a 2 gallon reserve. Or it could be just the idiosyncrasies of this particular fuel gauge/system. So far, it's certainly unlike any car I've ever had - including the '11 FFH. Their fuel gauges all seemed to believe the first 1/4 tank from full was a lot bigger then the rest.... I will keep an eye on my car and the threads - thanks for all the folks that posted helpful info so far. In any case, with the smaller fuel tank, probably more conservative DTE, perhaps harder to bring to "real full" tank, I think it will be hard to squeeze the > 530 (even 550 sometimes) on a tank I regularly got in my old '11 FFH. That is a pity. OTOH, the Costco employee working the pumps yesterday walked a couple of rows just to check the car closer and congratulate me on my "new baby"(literally) First time ever, for me. The Carrera guy on the other side of the pump didn't get the same treatment (OK, not to be carried away, the Carrera was really dirty...) So I guess there are always tradeoffs...

The $3750 is likely the government tax rebate on the Energi. Not the public/ private rebates from Ford. At least, this was the case for the C-Max Energi, when I was looking at it a few months back.

It could well be. I decided to try this time partially as an experiment and learning (funny thing is that the dealer didn't even try to sell me, he was done with me when I asked about it). I like the way it looks and washes right now. If it happens to need reapplication yearly, it will depend if I still like the car that much by then. But if I do, my wife might get jealous :-)

I had a paint sealant (Cilajet, specifically) applied to my new Fusion. First time user, so no idea how it's going to turn out in the long run (presumably you only need to reapply every 5 years). For all of the first 10 days, it's working as advertised... In the past and in our other cars, I've done as Jeff describes.

Mine too. And it was a hybrid, so the public rebate was $500. So $1250 was the total rebate (after taxes)