Dlcorbett

chief engineer details changes and why the changes were made. A lot of info. Edit: gm is doing press drives for the my25 Tahoe and suburban starting next week.

The order banks will supposedly open on or about Oct 24, 2024, so the order guide and build and price should be out around that time.

It looks like the platinum trim will come in atleast 5 pkgs, a base pkg, stealth, stealth performance, something called the drivers pack, and ultimate. The kr trim looks to fill the old limited trims niche.

It sux reds not offered because I can see the black tailgate applique working rele well with red paint.

Tbh, the black applique is a good idea. Me personally, i don't think they implemented it well, considering the design of the tailgate and lights as well as the rest of the car, it potentially could've been very tasteful with the design they have. I actually think the new design wise looks way better than the new armada. The armada was able to do the same black tailgate applique, but its far more tasteful to my eyes. They didn't force the applique for boldness sake, they added it within the design of the tailgate.

Order banks opened Oct 24 do that's when the build n price should be up. The truck starts at 61.7k.

The real question...is it better implemented in the ford than the gms? The buttons are closer to you hand, but the gms alow just the console cubby to move and has organizers where as the whole console moves back to include cupholders.

Timberline did well for them, but i guess tremor is more recognizable since its used on the pickup lines. They didn't mention if tremor was going to be available on the max. I'm going to assume it is, but that's going to affect a lot of choice if it isn't for many customers.

The stealth package is my fave look so far. I would get a dark color to hide the tailgate accent. https://youtu.be/qczWhp8UoHo?si=puWnIpBS2QnoWPzw

After checking out the journalists vids and the b roll vids on media site, I'm liking it more. I do like the front, and I guess with black paint it would hide the black tailgate motif. I'm actually not mad at the front instrument screen. It's looks like what most mid sized crossover use and the current escalade, the only thing that makes it seem off is how large the interior is and how pushed back it is relative to the steering wheel. It would've looked better if ford added a bezel on the screen, but In front of the driver, it looks rele good tbh. Also, the seats look extremely comfortable, and we all know ford knows how to make comfy seats. In TFLs video, apparently ford told them they redesigned the frame and suspension front and rear. They showed a close up of the rear and it does look slightly different, closer to what the gms suspension arms and sub frame look like. There are some features that It or the nav doesn't have, but its still a nice truck and I actually prefer the interior over the yukon(I do like the Tahoe dash for 2025). I think my initial thought was that they didn't do enough seeing as they knocked it outta the park with the 4th gen, they laid the ground work for a fantastic truck, and with so much potential, just wanted them to stay on the wave. Now I see, they still didn't do everything we wanted, but they did make it competitive enough, and that's all ford wanted to do. The nav is still my fave of all fs suvs atm, but I wouldn't be mad owning one of these.

I rele like the look of this package...until you see the tailgate and see how ford royally fucked that up. It's more irritating that I actually see a beautiful rear end design. But yeah if ford charges 85k plus for this, I'm going navigator. And ford isn't offering a red paint for both this and the nav...why?

Ford took 1100 hours of notes from current customers...I don't believe that at all. It's not bad, but its not great either. It's almost like they didn't even try with these fs suvs.

Tonight's the night, we are we expecting with this reveal? Is there anything that intrigues yall, any features you hope they reveal? Are yall just looking to be disappointed? Hopefully, they reveal a hybrid of some kind or atleast different engine options. Can't think of too much else because the navigator didn't receive anything new

My dad always had a pickup and a family suv. He had a ram 1500 and for the 10 yrs he owned it, was amazing. It's actually one of the reasons I like fs suvs so much, theyre just pickups with more family friendly ride and space, until recently. Now they feel like luxury cars lol and in some instances ride better than their suv counterpart. I rele liked the pre refresh f150. I got to drive one with the 5.0 and liked it alot. I'd personally get the 2.7 as it seems to have the least amount of issues, but you couldn't get that engine with kr or platinum trim. The hybrid seems nice though their still some teeth g issues they fixed with the refresh. However, the refresh to me is a downgrade in terms of looks. If I get an f150, I would probably look for a good deal on a 22 or 23.

Hopefully, but from what I've seen, gm still doesn't offer adjustable pedals, which is a necessity for my wife. Also, except for the escalade, the seats are always hard. I haven't sat in a tahoe, but I've driven the denali a few times and we felt the same each time about the seats not feeling comfy. Also, my wife hates the brake feel too. I've seen they moved many of the buttons from the left side of the steering wheel, which I appreciate because i can't stand the left side button cluster personally, there's no way to know what your pressing without looking. Also, I dont like the tumble 2nd row seats either. We've had the current armada, and your right, the seat is way too close to the wheel. The new one has a lot more 1st row legroom so that may have been addressed. From the test drives, the engine from the v6 is still prevalent. My wife actually liked the armada we had, and the issues we had seemed to be addressed with the new one, which is why I wanted her to drive one. I'm mulling over a pick up truck since we have a 3 row with the cx9. If we can get a good buy out when the lease is up, I'd like to keep it as it's a good car. We like the size, comfort and safety of the fs suvs especially on the highway. The only truck that Interests me though is the ram 1500. I would like to drive the Sierra, but is a little too old school.