Dlcorbett

Not here, but in the asian market, itll sell like starbucks

Ford does that alot if your right. They like to release their vehicles before complete. I more meant that they built the explorer to be sportier than need be, than built a sporty variant of it (which is doing well).

Your st midel would maybe do better than the xlt they tested, but you have to remember, they are comparing the explorer provided by ford within the price they dictate to other likewise vehicles in the same pricepoint. A st model won't be used because the 57k starting price is way to high for these multi car comparos where all fully loaded barely reach 55k. Also, when doing comparos, for the most part, they are comparing the suvs through the lense of a general consumer. Ford worked so hard on the criticsms of the last explorer, they were blinded by what the competition was doing with their vehicles. Yes, rwd platform makes for a sportier yield, but rele what consumer is buying a 7 seat minivan to take on a track. And not only that, ford tuned that car to be sporty, then built a sporty variant of said car. I wont taint the validity of motortrend, most often than not, they actually reward fords unlike their direct journalist competitor.

That is a beautiful truck

The right square looks like a button for the upper glove box and the left fial looks like a drive modes or drivetrain selector.

Its funny, gm took the c clamp design from ford, just for ford to take the c clamp design from gm lol. I do like the flow through design, its very hyundai/cadillac though. Now we need interior shots

I kno the ford f150 hasnt been unvealed yet but havent seen any prototypes or camoed expeditions yet. I remember seeing camoed refreshed versions of the my15 version back in 2012, atleast 2 yrs b4 release.

Also, hopefully they revise and retune the suspension and add air suspension (atleast to navigator) as well as ventilated sec row seats and heated third row.

If the expy, nav get the explorer upgraded styled screens, they will be lambasted for the most part. From screenshots,it looks like the f150 screen will mold to the dash and the dash will be a modernized versikn of what it has now.

I dnt think they would leave the interior alone. The new f150 coming later will have a 12+ in screen, so id expect lincoln to offer maybe a 15in screen in the nav as well as adding the air suspension and ventilated sec row seats that the aviator has. On the outside, i can see the nav adopting the tailights of the aviator/corsair and either new styled headlights similar in style to the aviator (the current headlights are closer to the continental style than the evolved aviator style) or more aggressive looking headlights.

Design and quality wise yes and was highly disappointed when the expy came out considering the price increase, however even the palisade couldn't match the comfort of the expy. I also thought the expy drove better (wifey did 2) even on base springs. Ima miss her. Again, ford bakes high end cakes half way but wants you to pay full. I understand they are working high end down ( working on Lincoln product then working on ford product around it) atleast that's what it seems like, but none of their new products come out finished. I want a new refreshed expy or navi to replace the one I had but as much as I loved the one I had, it wasn't polished at all. A shame as the car itself was the best I've ever owned. Fortunately for expy, FS suv class isn't huge enough to be exposed. That won't fly for explorer or escape, and ppl are seeing it. Explorer is getting panned even on rwd platform because it's half baked and has odd design choices. Tiny third row(to make expy more appealing), std 6 seating, 5k tow rating (again, see above), sporty drive priority in a family car (odd considering theres a sport trim in lineup), dated infotainment, premium price tag. Now escape is seeing this too, albeit not as panned. There's another thread about a new CEO, I'm not gonna say one is needed but i will say he needs to make changes. The products have huge potential, and some are stunners (new lincolns/mustangs mainly), but ford stymies their products by not doing their best, just good enough. The explorer is a clear example. Its not the assembly issues thats causing slow sales, its the perceived quality per unit cost compared to its competitors. Hopefully the ceo wakes the heck up, sees this truth, and makes the changes.

If the explorer xlt is $47k, you should look at the palisade limited, which is $47k. That interior blew the doors off my 18 expy Ltd Interior.

Looks like a ford edge mule to me

You can get 360 camera on xlt fx4s for 2020.

Id say go drive one in each trim level to see if you like the upgrades the 4th gen has over the 3rd.