Dlcorbett

Glad they fixed it for you. I would've told them the headrest is a safety feature, and if it's not fixed, it becomes a liability to my safety.

Theres no a 80k truck is missing features on a 70k version of the same truck.

Hard to say. On the order guide, it's included on active 202, but for tremor it states it includes items from active 200. I wanna say it will be included but will probably need to wait until they are on the lot to confirm.

Of course they did...arrgh

Great question. Are you eligible for x plan after owning ford stock for a specific amount of time? If so, Id like to know how to get a pin as well. I'm also looking at purchasing a 2025 expedition later this year.

https://driving.ca/reviews/2025-ford-explorer-2024-jeep-grand-cherokee-l-suv-comparison I think it would've fared better if it was the platinum trim. Thoughts?

Hybrid expy/navigator for the win lol

We should start seeing the first drives around d that time since ford usually does press drives for journalist around the build dates of their vehicles.

My wife and I really like the atmospheric theme. My wife really likes those rims. I like em, i like the design and color contrast, but they are too big.

They also took away memory seats from the passenger side. This was invaluable as these seats take forever to get a good position, even on the passenger side. We had our own settings for all three memory slots on our 2020. My wife would have a fit if she had to find and change the position every time she got in. Bad on you lincoln. And for the life of me, why in a 100k vehicle did they not include led strips for the doors, dash and console? Why lock it to the 115k bl? The 75k expy platinum has led strips on the doors and dash for crying out loud.

Wtf, I thought that was just a glitch on the build and price. It's bad enough that there's no led strips in the doors and console for the reserve trim.

Wasn't it a couple years ago when ford was pretty much pushing their agenda for a 3 row hybrid. It seems like they got far enough in production to atleast see it through. Luckily, the current powertrain is elite (tranny is another discussion), however, there's still some features that I'm baffled at in regards to fords dismissal. Air springs for one. They could've limited to the 24 in wheel options, but to not add it when every competitor has it is beyond me. Rearview digital mirror, a feature they were pushing heavy not too long ago never made it to its consumer products, only fleet. But why? They also should have sun shades. The Explorer had them, presumably because it's top competitors do, but its such a useful feature, why not add it to the flagship products? There's other stuff too, but it seems like ford shorthanded themselves with these product lines specifically.

But that's pretty much all suvs to include some crossovers. It would be nice if ford gave powertrain options. If the 5.0 nets similar fe numbers as the ecoboost, why not make it an option. And if the hybrid setup works well under the f150 chassis, im sure it can fit the expy chassis with some mods.

Me personally, I understand the volume argument, I'm more interested in the cost per dollar. I think myself and a lot of other potential buyers feel that Ford didn't add enough features to make it a value play. There's many features that it's competitors have that the expy and nav don't. Yes, you can get those features in those models, but then if you prefer the ford, you have to jump ship or pay the same amount for things missing. I understand you also will always be short changing yourself somewhere in this segment. Yes, there supply and quality concerns, but of other manufacturers tubers can get supplies, and ford has done it once, they can do it again. Its not much a complaint as i still prefer the nav and expy to its competitors as a whole package, but I think I can speak for some that some of the decisions in terms of features, packaging and value couldve been handled better.

The 24 way seats don't have the air bladders that assist with lumbar. I don't know what other adjustment it's missing though. The current models 24 way seats don't have massage function either, however, I believe the 24 way seats have massage in the nautilus. The passenger seat loses the tilt function, why it's 22 (28) way seats for passenger. If they lock out massage seats for only the 30 way seats for the black label is a huge mistake.

They also took away memory seats settings for passenger, hvac 2nd row seats as standard for reserve, and you can't get massaging 2nd row seats unless you go black label.

Order guide dropped

Still no order guide available

It looks like it's still being updated. They just posted spy photos of the Explorer tremor a day or so ago.

Well what do you know, chevy added b&p to the 25 tahoe finally, and feature for feature is more expensive than the expy.

Any information to when the 25 expedition/navigator order guides will be available? The b&p for both don't do a good job of detailing the features or changes the vehicles now have.

Build starts in January, they will arrive in dealers in April. Haven't seen anything about the tremor being delayed.

Just for context, the my25 navigator starts at 102k including destination. The equivalent my24 with the same features is 104k. And again, though the escalade starts cheaper, to get equivalent features will run you 115k. I do think lincoln will offer a base trim the following year atleast for limo, livery and rental service sales.

It's been up since thursday, on the ford homepage now: https://shop.ford.com/configure/expedition/2025/model/customize/active?intcmp=reveal-seconNav-fbc

I guess noone has access to the order guides, it's been 3 days and they still haven't been posted.