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Well, come on. Share with the class!

https://jalopnik.com/ford-won-t-bring-ranger-phev-to-us-other-choices-1850852973

That’s not entirely true. The bargaining team itself was at the table in solidarity house late into the evening until it was clear a deal wouldn’t get done before the deadline. I know this to be true. I had heard talks were breaking down right around lunchtime. Jim Farley called out Fain specifically for not being at the table.

The union has plenty of blame for that by not allowing to stick to the discipline policies they agreed to.

I just watched the livestream since I couldn’t earlier. Seems the sticking points are still the wage increase percentage and the pension/retirement issue. Those two things stuck out to me that he didn’t talk about.

Ray Charles could have seen that coming and he’s dead

Political reasons

At this point I don’t believe anyone is going to get through to Fain on that.

Nothing surprises me anymore. Just another example of an extremist ascending to power where extremism has no business being.

Well well well, it seems we’re being used as pawns. https://www.axios.com/2023/09/22/uaw-strike-automakers-operational-chaos-fain-leaked-messages

I’ve seen numerous instances of there being too many cooks in the kitchen and nothing getting accomplished because of it.

like I said, I would settle for 6 months but definitely remove the damn loopholes.

To my knowledge we don’t have any hourly on the line working for a temp agency. I know Stellantis does that all over and they get paid less than direct hires to start. What I’m referring to is the classification TPT (Temporary part-time) and TFT (Temporary full-time). The company can change you back and forth at will and every time they remove you from full time that 1 year clock resets.

Well that seems like an exaggeration. Look at how much profitability improved over the last 6 years without changing much, if anything about union wages. And they still say they have at least double the engineering staff that they should have. Start there.

They get some but not a whole lot. I’m not entirely sure exactly what it is.

Theres enough loopholes in the contract that can be manipulated by the company to make temps around on a long term basis. If I’m not mistaken, you need to be employed for 1 calendar year (and I think full time at that) in order to be flipped to a permanent seniority employee. I haven’t seen too much of it at my plant but I’ve heard stores from elsewhere where people keep getting flipped from full time to part time to reset that clock.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I don’t hate that most recent offer. Make the COLA formula a little stronger, limit the amount of time a temp can be a temp to 90 days (I’ll settle for 6 months) with zero caveat and make the wage progression the length of 1 contract and I’m good with it. It still wouldn’t surprise me if Ford were to settle first. We don’t have nearly the same issues that GM and Stellantis have when it comes to plant closures and the parts divisions.

Im staying out of the Facebook groups until this is over. It’s getting rather chippy. I got my ass chewed for saying I don’t think the unifor contract will have any impact on us because there’s only a 1 way dialogue (if that) happening right now.

it’s certainly not helping

That would require government intervention which the UAW has refused. Personally I’m glad, we aren’t the railroad union, we are under no obligation to accept government intervention.

To that end the union could definitely be less confrontational about the coming transition. There has to be a way to maintain job security while not giving up the farm order to do so. It’s very similar to what we’ve seen in the week since the strike began. Instead of a 2-way dialogue happening the union is making the company do all the leg work instead of actually legitimately negotiating.

The only jacket I’ve ever gotten was after the Bronco launch

2 1/2 hours per month

Got me by 3 years

I should have more than 40 hours paid leave per year I can use whenever I want to after 10 years.