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MrCurvedLimos

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  1. MrCurvedLimos

    2023 Escape Orders & Discussion

    Back on Nov 9th (page 3 of this thread), Stevedbvik1 noted that the Escape hybrids and PHEVs were already oversold by 2-4 times what Ford was planning to produce for the entire model year. So I guess it's not too much of a surprise.
  2. MrCurvedLimos

    2023 Escape Orders & Discussion

    I chose the dealer based on the fact that, back in December 2021, they were the only one I could find that had an Escape PHEV on the lot. I didn't want to commit to buying a car until I had the opportunity to test drive one. I felt the dealer had good sense, trying to keep one around for people to drive, so I ordered through them. But it's definitely a smaller dealer. I've been wondering if the long delay could be something about dealer allocation because they are smaller? I've also been wondering if it might be a regional thing? When we were car shopping, we wanted to test drive a RAV4 Prime, too. The Toyota dealers told us they couldn't order them: Toyota had decided not to make them available in the Pacific Northwest for at least a year, and we should check back in 2022 about whether the 23s could be ordered. If we really wanted a 22, we would have to go to California or elsewhere to get it (we investigated, but $$$$). Maybe Ford was not so explicit, but was actually doing something similar? Maybe they gave dealers in other parts of the country more allocations for PHEVs than the dealers in the PNW? I can say I've seen exactly one RAV4 Prime on the roads, and zero Escape PHEVs or Corsair GTs. Meanwhile, new gas-powered RAV4s, Escapes, and Corsairs are commonly seen. In 2015 when we suddenly needed a new car, we went looking for a PHEV, and we had a choice of several C-Max and Fusion PHEVs on Ford lots around Seattle. But in 2021, it was difficult to find any, of any make or model. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that things are moving now that we know a VIN, and this will work out in a timely fashion from here.
  3. MrCurvedLimos

    2023 Escape Orders & Discussion

    I just called my dealer, and he informed me there's a build week and a VIN in the system for my Escape PHEV Premium now! March 13th is the target. He seemed surprised; he wasn't aware of it yet. "It must have just happened," he said. Mine was ordered Dec. 14th, 2021, and re-ordered on Nov. 21, 2022. VIN A297xx.
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    2023 Escape Orders & Discussion

    Yes, my order is for a PHEV Premium. So maybe the delete code isn't even intended to apply to the PHEV model at all? I agree this is quite confusing. I will ask about order guide updates for the PHEV. Thanks to both of you for your responses!
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    2023 Escape Orders & Discussion

    I called my dealer and asked about the Sirius XM delete. According to him, adding the SXM delete to an order involves changing from "Tech Pack 2" to "Tech Pack 1". That means: 10-speaker Bang & Olufsen stereo -> regular non-B&O stereo 10-way adjustable power driver's seat -> 8-way adjustable power driver's seat Gray leather interior -> Gray cloth, vinyl trimmed interior. I'm not too surprised about the B&O stereo system, but the rest is a head scratcher. And as I'm looking at Tech Pack 2, it seems to include more stuff than just the 3 items my dealer outlined. Does anyone know all the differences between TP-2 and TP-1? Or if the delete creates some weird hybrid between TP2 and TP1? Is there a better way to look up details like this, other than playing with Ford's "Build & Price" website? I'd like to be confident I know the full scope of changes before agreeing to this.
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    2023 Escape Orders & Discussion

    If Ford can build an Escape except for the Sirius XM module, do they simply build the car and put the feature delete code on the order? If you explicitly change your order to include a delete code (is that possible?), does Ford prioritize building your car over orders that don't mention the delete code explicitly, when they're out of that module? Or is changing your order pointless, because Ford doesn't pay attention to delete codes on an order? Every time I ask my dealer, he says he doesn't know of any commodity restrictions on the Escape. What are all of the current delete codes known for the 2023 Escape?
  7. MrCurvedLimos

    2023 Escape Orders & Discussion

    Congrats! You seem lucky to get one built so soon. I still don't get how this works... I placed my order on 12/14/21, with my order sitting at priority 02 for about 9 months of that time. Is this a "dealer allocation" thing? Can my dealer be low-priority when Ford is deciding who to build a car for? Sigh.
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    How to Get the Most out of PHEV Drive Modes

    I don't know about a law, but as a mode of operation it makes sense. You use fewer watt-hours per mile of battery in low-speed urban driving than you do in high-speed interstate driving, and you use fewer gallons per mile of gasoline in interstate driving than in urban driving. So it makes sense to run electric in town and gas on the highway. I've been driving a C-Max Energi since 2015, and that's the way I always use it. If I'm in town, I keep it in EV Now mode (Electric only). If I'm on the highway, I keep it in EV Later mode (Save for later), so I have battery left when I get to my destination city, at which point I switch back to EV Now. The Auto (regular hybrid) mode on the Energi is useless, since it favors battery operation until the battery gets down to the reserve level used for hybrid operation, which is exactly the same as EV Now mode. The difference is, Auto mode kicks on the gas engine under low-to-moderate acceleration, while EV Now mode engages the gas engine only under heavy acceleration. The Energi didn't have the 'Use Engine to Charge' setting, but I've long wished it did. Then you wouldn't have to worry about finding charging ports on multi-day road trips. And a feature where it simply switched back and forth between Electric-only and Use-Engine-to-Charge any time you get on or off a freeway would be ideal... You'd be nearly assured of the most efficient operation possible, and almost never have to touch the control.
  9. MrCurvedLimos

    2023 Escape Orders & Discussion

    The list came from the build sheet my dealer sent me, before the order was placed. He asked me to sign it and send it back to him so he could complete the order. The confirmation email from Ford had only the info that you posted.
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    2023 Escape Orders & Discussion

    The PHEV Premium order looks like this. We added the cargo shade and the trailer hitch. U0E0 ESCAPE 4DR PHEV FWD 106.7" WHEELBASE ATLAS BLUE METALLIC LEATHER-TRIMMED SEATS SPACE GRAY EQUIPMENT GROUP 700A 18" MACHINED MAGNETIC ALUM WHL 2.5L I-VCT ATK I-4 HYB ENG ECVT TRANSMISSION 225/60R18 100H A/S BSW TIRES PHEV PREMIUM PACKAGE REVERSE BRAKE ASSIST MEMORY PACKAGE ACTIVE PARK ASSIST 2.0 360 CAMERA W/SPLIT VIEW WIRELESS CHARGING HEAD-UP DISPLAY 10-WAY POWER DRIVER SEAT CV LOT MANAGEMENT EASY ACCESS CARGO SHADE CLASS II TRAILER TOW PACKAGE FRONT LICENSE PLATE BRACKET
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    2023 Escape Orders & Discussion

    I've passed the 1 year mark, waiting for a '22 Escape Titanium PHEV. It's since been converted to an order for a '23 Escape PHEV Premium. So much for priority code 02... My order is back to PC 10, and my dealer tells me all three retail orders they had for '22 Escape PHEVs last year were converted to orders for '23s.
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    2023 Escape Orders & Discussion

    Well, I still don't understand this model year roll/cancellation process. I called my dealer last week and asked them to check if there was a private offer. They called me back and confirmed yes, there was a private offer of $2000 that needs to be used by Nov. 30th. The same day I made the call to my dealer, I got another one of the "supply chain delays" emails from Ford, claiming that they're working hard to get me behind the wheel. So I went ahead and placed an order for a 2023 Escape PHEV Premium. I just got the order confirmation email from Ford a couple hours ago. But how was I supposed to know that my 2022 order wasn't being produced? The private offer would've expired before I ever heard about it! If I hadn't been following along here on the forums, I wouldn't have had a clue. Is it my dealer's responsibility to pass this info along?
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    2023 Escape Orders & Discussion

    I'm a little lost... I still have an unfilled order, placed in Dec. 2021, for a 2022 Escape Titanium PHEV. On Oct. 3rd, I got the "supply chain delays" email from Ford that claimed they're "working diligently and aggressively to get [me] behind the wheel." But I haven't heard a word about a scheduled build date for the car. At this point, is 2022 production finished? Have all the outstanding retail orders for 2022s been cancelled, or what's going on? Is there any chance my order will be built? I see lots of BEV Fords on the roads these days, but very few PHEVs... Did Ford build any PHEVs last year? Will Ford tell me if they cancel my order, or is my dealer tasked with breaking the news? I haven't heard anything from my dealer since Aug. 4th. And then if I have to re-order a 2023, does it go in line behind all the people who've been ordering 2023s since August?
  14. MrCurvedLimos

    Escape PHEV "Beginner's EV"?

    What kind of info do you get in your weekly reports? I called the dealer and asked for an update, and my salesperson said that my order is at priority 02 and is still unscheduled. That was all the info he seemed to have. He added that the holdup seems to be that it's a PHEV, not attributable to any one feature like heated seats or roof rails or trailer hitch. He said the only Escape PHEV they've ever been able to get was the '21 SEL PHEV that I test drove 9 months ago. They've never had another one on the lot. The only PHEVs they see are retail orders, and the retail orders arrive very infrequently.
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    Escape PHEV "Beginner's EV"?

    I received a third communication from Ford. First was on 12/22/21 to confirm order placed on 12/14/21, second was on 3/18/22, and now third on 8/18/22. "As promised, we want to update you on the status of your EscapeTitanium Plug-In Hybrid order. We are still experiencing delays due to the supply chain challenges that Ford and our industry are facing at this time. Please understand that while getting your vehicle into production is taking longer than usual, we are doing all we can to minimize the delays. There’s nothing we want more than to deliver your new EscapeTitanium Plug-In Hybrid. We are fully committed to keeping you updated on your vehicle’s status, and will let you know as more information becomes available. We apologize for any inconvenience, and truly appreciate your patience and understanding." The order has been at priority 02 for about 90 days now, and no discernible progress. Despite Ford's full commitment to keeping me updated, I still feel in the dark.
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