wchain Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 So is the pic of the 08 CV with the Fusionesque grille BS or real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngSTAP Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 So is the pic of the 08 CV with the Fusionesque grille BS or real? same grill as 07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topgun Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 same grill as 07 and same doors from Jan 1992 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchdevil Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 and same doors from Jan 1992 Same platform since 1979... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wchain Posted August 6, 2007 Author Share Posted August 6, 2007 (edited) Same platform since 1979... But totally new Floorpan in 1991, and new Frame in 2003. and same doors from Jan 1992 Front Fenders have been the same (except the antenna hole) 92-07, and Rear doors changed from 97 to 98 didnt they? Edited August 6, 2007 by wchain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topgun Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 But totally new Floorpan in 1991, and new Frame in 2003.Front Fenders have been the same (except the antenna hole) 92-07, and Rear doors changed from 97 to 98 didnt they? Uhhh no ,yes,yes and no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchdevil Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 But totally new Floorpan in 1991, and new Frame in 2003.Front Fenders have been the same (except the antenna hole) 92-07, and Rear doors changed from 97 to 98 didnt they? The rear doors didn't change. They were discontinued for the Grand Marquis doors and rear greenhouse that already existed. The entire Crown Vic body switched to Grand Marquis tooling which was modified the rear quarter panels to accept a restyled decklid, new taillamps, rear body panel and rear bumper. The Grand Marquis more recently went from using it's own front fenders, front end panel and lamps to using the Crown Vic one with a Mercury styled grille. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wchain Posted August 7, 2007 Author Share Posted August 7, 2007 Uhhh no ,yes,yes and no I stand corrected then. I was almost sure the floorpan was different, as I tried to install some 91 leather seats into my 88 Vic many years ago and they did not bolt up, yet I see people putting later 98+ Panther Seats into older cars with no problems.... I just searched here.....A little talk about floorpans.... http://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/ubbthre...=true#Post75268 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topgun Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 I stand corrected then. I was almost sure the floorpan was different, as I tried to install some 91 leather seats into my 88 Vic many years ago and they did not bolt up, yet I see people putting later 98+ Panther Seats into older cars with no problems.... I just searched here.....A little talk about floorpans.... http://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/ubbthre...=true#Post75268 Am surprised the seats didn't fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SysEng Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Same platform since 1979... I recently had an opportunity to side by side compare a 98 Grand Marquis LS with a 2007 model. Quite literally, there is not one common part from the tires up. There may be some interchangeability, but none fo the parts, body panels, etc... are exact matches. The frame ( the critical part ina BOF vehicle ), front to back is entirely different. What does this tell us? That Ford has in fact invested a lot in this vehicle. And there have been some very significant upgrades. For all that it appears "feature stripped", all the upgrades are such as to make me think Ford is putting more into these cars $$$ wise than they have in the past. The "feature stripped" look appears to be just that... a look... the current fashion :rolleyes: apparently. The one part of Ford corporate that this car hasn't been seen in is the styling studio. Considering their other recent efforts, thats probably a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchdevil Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 I recently had an opportunity to side by side compare a 98 Grand Marquis LS with a 2007 model. Quite literally, there is not one common part from the tires up. There may be some interchangeability, but none fo the parts, body panels, etc... are exact matches. The frame ( the critical part ina BOF vehicle ), front to back is entirely different. What does this tell us? That Ford has in fact invested a lot in this vehicle. And there have been some very significant upgrades. For all that it appears "feature stripped", all the upgrades are such as to make me think Ford is putting more into these cars $$$ wise than they have in the past. The "feature stripped" look appears to be just that... a look... the current fashion :rolleyes: apparently. The one part of Ford corporate that this car hasn't been seen in is the styling studio. Considering their other recent efforts, thats probably a good thing. Of course many of the parts are not exact matches... But most of them have been modified from the original tooling. The result is carry over doors, roof panels, hoods, glass... All of these things make the look of the car generally unchanged een though there have been improvements or changes in many areas. It's like the original Beetle compared to early 70's models... They are not exactly the same and many of the parts will not interchange while some do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SysEng Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Of course many of the parts are not exact matches... But most of them have been modified from the original tooling. In fact, even if the sheetmetal looks identical, it isn't. Ford at some point had to change the stamping dies for every piece of sheet metal out there. Thats the hilarious part. Their confidence in the stylists is so high, they didn't even bring them in to bend the metal different . Can you imagine making that investment and bypassing the easiest step in the process :huh: I'm sure Ford stylists musta got the memo :reading: How'd you like your boss to have that little confidence in you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9Vic Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 I stand corrected then. I was almost sure the floorpan was different, as I tried to install some 91 leather seats into my 88 Vic many years ago and they did not bolt up, yet I see people putting later 98+ Panther Seats into older cars with no problems.... I just searched here.....A little talk about floorpans.... http://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/ubbthre...=true#Post75268 Yes, I remember that day, still have the pictures. The seats in the 1991 are not the same as the 1988, I know I was there helping Wes trying to install them. I also thought that the 1991 had the same floor bolt plan as the 1992 plus. I swear I saw a post somewhere where someone put late model seats in a 91 box Vic. Side Note, the grille is faked in some way or a custom job by a private owner, not production. The 2008 Order Guide has no mention of any changes to the body other then a color delete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewq4b Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Yes, I remember that day, still have the pictures. The seats in the 1991 are not the same as the 1988, I know I was there helping Wes trying to install them. I also thought that the 1991 had the same floor bolt plan as the 1992 plus. I swear I saw a post somewhere where someone put late model seats in a 91 box Vic.Side Note, the grille is faked in some way or a custom job by a private owner, not production. The 2008 Order Guide has no mention of any changes to the body other then a color delete. The Floor pans are essentially identical. the bolt hole locations were changed some time int he 92 model year. My Old 1992 GM is a 01/91 build, it had to be damn near one of the first ones off the line in the new body style. And it has a one piece floor pan like the box panthers. And the has the same bolt hole locations as the earlier cars as I replaced the Seat track assy a few years back on the drivers side with one out of an 89 Vic as the later ones would not fit. (Mine was just worn out) I believe the floor pan was updated, but dimensionally it is the same I guess Ford used what was ever at hand in the late 91's and early 92 CV GM's. Matthew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrypm1 Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Real grill from a real car company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercury_1988 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 :happy feet: 2008 CV SPECIAL EDITION ARRIVED IN SAUDIA ARABIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 The three-bar has officially jumped the shark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 The chrome piece below the bumper looks tacked-on, but other than that the 3-bar should be a welcomed change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyTheKid Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Why mess with a good thing. I don't want to see any changes in the Vic other than HP. :shades: :reading: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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