Hi-lo Saline Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Has anyone heard anything about remaining Ach plants? Hoping to stay in Saline as Ford worker for as long as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymaker Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Has anyone heard anything about remaining Ach plants? Hoping to stay in Saline as Ford worker for as long as possible. ACH= non-core Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeHighways Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 ACH= non-core Bull Sh!t we are just as blue as you are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereswaldo Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 ACH= non-core You're reading the wrong contract bud. All the info so far says there is no core or non-core at Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 (edited) You're reading the wrong contract bud. All the info so far says there is no core or non-core at Ford. Edited November 5, 2007 by paris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Well, It does not say much at all so far. I am on page 10 currently, And it mentions ACH workers. Ford contract highlights LINK Attrition Replacement Obligations to be Fulfilled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark270 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Well, It does not say much at all so far. I am on page 10 currently, And it mentions ACH workers. Ford contract highlights LINK Attrition Replacement Obligations to be Fulfilled every time i got to open this, my browser crashes...WTF ??? can you post it here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark270 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Well, It does not say much at all so far. I am on page 10 currently, And it mentions ACH workers. Ford contract highlights LINK Attrition Replacement Obligations to be Fulfilled i think this is what i already have... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark270 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Well, It does not say much at all so far. I am on page 10 currently, And it mentions ACH workers. Ford contract highlights LINK Attrition Replacement Obligations to be Fulfilled nevermind, i got it pulled up, same thing as i got, doesn't say the bad stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 nevermind, i got it pulled up, same thing as i got, doesn't say the bad stuff... It does'nt say good or bad. There is a part that has me wondering though. Moratorium of oursourcing right on the 1st page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark270 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 It does'nt say good or bad. There is a part that has me wondering though. Moratorium of oursourcing right on the 1st page. yeah, i will post the white pages soon. hey wild thanks for posting this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 On page 10 under "Attrition Replacement Obligations to be Fulfilled" in the first paragraph: All opening hiring obligations resulting from the 1999 and 2003 Collective Bargaining Agreements will be fulfilled through the hiring of full time and temporary part time employees and the conversion of Visteon hourly employees at former Ford locations to Ford full time hourly employment status,the return of the Sterling and Rawsonville plants to Ford,and two separate flowback actions that provided eligible Ford employees at Visteon/ ACH locations opportunities to return to Ford locations during the 2003 Agreement. Are they talking about the previous action a few years ago when all of the Visteon employees were given Ford employee status or are they saying that the current Visteon (temp) employees will be made Ford employees? I'm not trying to bitch about it or sound like I wouldn't want them to be Ford employees, but many of those people are rehires who took buyouts. Aren't they defeating the purpose????? More power to those people if that happens but I still don't have $100K in my bank account........... What about us who didn't take a buyout and come back?!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 yeah, i will post the white pages soon.hey wild thanks for posting this. Your welcome, I try to help out where ever I can. Looking forward to the white pages. :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Are they talking about the previous action a few years ago when all of the Visteon employees were given Ford employee status or are they saying that the current Visteon (temp) employees will be made Ford employees? Yes. There is no provision in this contract for hiring the TFT's to full time status.(At least not in the highlights) Ford already said they need 8,000 to 12,000 more buyouts. Why would they hire the temp workers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Yes. There is no provision in this contract for hiring the TFT's to full time status.(At least not in the highlights) Ford already said they need 8,000 to 12,000 more buyouts. Why would they hire the temp workers. Exactly my point. But it reads kinda funny....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local1111 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 (edited) Ford Hired all Visteon employees when they took back the plants and made a new entity called ACH. Anyone hired INTO ACH is an ACH employee Not Visteon, NOT Ford, but an ACH employee. Those who were rehired, IF they took a retirement, they signed a paper that states they can never again hire INTO Ford. They are ACH employees covered under an ACH/UAW contract. People may like to call them Temps, But they are ACH employees in those plants. One of the reasons there has not been the flowback, like Chuck Browning said last OCT., is that Ford has been hiring part-time employees in their assembly plants and thus preventing the Ford employees in the ACH plants from flowing back. So people in the Ford Assembly plants have a misconception of what has been happening in the Old Visteon / New ACH plants. Edited November 5, 2007 by Local1111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Ford Hired all Visteon employees when they took back the plants and made a new entity called ACH. Anyone hired INTO ACH is an ACH employee Not Visteon, NOT Ford, but an ACH employee. Those who were rehired, IF they took a retirement, they signed a paper that states they can never again hire INTO Ford. They are ACH employees covered under an ACH/UAW contract. People may like to call them Temps, But they are ACH employees in those plants. One of the reasons there has not been the flowback, like Chuck Browning said last OCT., is that Ford has been hiring part-time employees in their assembly plants and thus preventing the Ford employees in the ACH plants from flowing back. So people in the Ford Assembly plants have a misconception of what has been happening in the Old Visteon / New ACH plants. What happens to the ACH ee's with this new contract? Besides getting to vote on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Ford Hired all Visteon employees when they took back the plants and made a new entity called ACH. Anyone hired INTO ACH is an ACH employee Not Visteon, NOT Ford, but an ACH employee. Those who were rehired, IF they took a retirement, they signed a paper that states they can never again hire INTO Ford. They are ACH employees covered under an ACH/UAW contract. People may like to call them Temps, But they are ACH employees in those plants. It was my understanding that, even though the new folks are working for ACH, they were classified as Visteon temporary employees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local1111 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 What happens to the ACH ee's with this new contract? Besides getting to vote on it. I'll type this slowly for you ASK YOUR CHAIR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 ASK YOUR CHAIR I'm sitting on it right now. I'll ask it when I get up. Sorry. :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeHighways Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 the proposed agreement. UAW Ford workers currently as- signed to ACH facilities and those on protected status will be placed before the company can hire any workers into entry-level positions. Looks like its time to start packing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvsked Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 I'm sitting on it right now. I'll ask it when I get up. Sorry. :shades: Dude I read your replies often you and J.Leno too funny kinda lame at times but funny none the less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Dude I read your replies often you and J.Leno too funny kinda lame at times but funny none the less Look up LAME on dictionary.com. There is Pioneers picture! Sitting in his CHAIR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butthead Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 "Nationwide buyout packages will be offered based on mutual agreement by the parties". Does this mean they will be selective to specific classifications, production, trades ????? Will it be directed or decided by Ford and the International or by local plants and local unions. any serious insite on this would be nice. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Look up LAME on dictionary.com. There is Pioneers picture! Sitting in his CHAIR! One of these days we need to get together and have a beer.......so I can pour it over your head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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