Ford Jellymoulds Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 (edited) Ford Focus sales are on a slide down 8% on last year, VW Golf moved up to number 1 spot in Europe for the first time in ages in October. European Car sales were up 5.6% in October on last year, Fords rise for the month was 4.8%. Edited November 23, 2007 by Ford Jellymoulds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAC_Sparky Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Can't you see the obvious answer? The Europeans are pissed they don't get the NA Focus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Jellymoulds Posted November 23, 2007 Author Share Posted November 23, 2007 You are right the grass is always greener on the other side of the pond, l like the new US Focus maybe we could do a swop to keep everyone happy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 (edited) Focus is still 3rd best seller overall (not only in its C segment), which is pretty impressve when you consider it is a dated model and selling against some very good new recently released cars. The refresh for 2008 will keep it in the top. BTW which car was #1 overall in Europe for 2006, the Focus. Can you imagine if the North American Focus was the #1 seller in North America. Now that would be something!! The 2008 N.A. Focus I don't think will accomplish such a feat. Edited November 23, 2007 by MKII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pms jones Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Ford Focus sales are on a slide down 8% on last year, VW Golf moved up to number 1 spot in Europe for the first time in ages in October. European Car sales were up 5.6% in October on last year, Fords rise for the month was 4.8%. May be it could be that they now only count the focus not the focus and focus cmax together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Ford Focus sales are on a slide down 8% on last year, VW Golf moved up to number 1 spot in Europe for the first time in ages in October. European Car sales were up 5.6% in October on last year, Fords rise for the month was 4.8%. Do you know if Ford has reduced Focus fleet sales? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 (edited) Can't you see the obvious answer? The Europeans are pissed they don't get the NA Focus! That may be the funniest thing I read for the rest of the year! Edited November 23, 2007 by P71_CrownVic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 (edited) Can you imagine if the North American Focus was the #1 seller in North America. Now that would be something!! Yeah. It would mean that there were no longer trucks for sale anywhere. That would be something. Oh, wait, I forgot, the U.S. is just Western Western Europe, we do things exactly the same here. Either that or Europe is just a few more Blue states in the U.S. of A. There's no difference to speak of..... Reality check: 12 of the top 20 vehicles in the U.S., and 8 of the top 10 sold through July of this year were NA market exclusives. Compare that with 0 of the top 10 vehicles sold in Europe. This ain't Europe. ---- My guess, drop in Focus sales = drop in demand for larger vehicles due to gas prices (or diesel prices). Edited November 23, 2007 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmm55 Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 The Mondeo is new and a hit, so it may be taking away some sales from the Focus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 (edited) Yeah. It would mean that there were no longer trucks for sale anywhere. That would be something.Oh, wait, I forgot, the U.S. is just Western Western Europe, we do things exactly the same here. Either that or Europe is just a few more Blue states in the U.S. of A. There's no difference to speak of..... Reality check: 12 of the top 20 vehicles in the U.S., and 8 of the top 10 sold through July of this year were NA market exclusives. Compare that with 0 of the top 10 vehicles sold in Europe. This ain't Europe. ---- My guess, drop in Focus sales = drop in demand for larger vehicles due to gas prices (or diesel prices). Its about PASSENGER CARS sales, not trucks. Check the link there is no mention of trucks whatsoever http://acea.thisconnect.com/index.php/news...rack_in_october Edited November 24, 2007 by MKII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Its about car sales, not trucks. Oh, as in "Waiter do you expect me to eat this garbage?" "No, sir, only the morsels of food." Saying 'best selling car' as a comparison to 'best selling overall vehicle' is not a 1:1 comparison. By eliminating one of the largest segments of the NA market, you selectively ignore the NA market in order to make it appear more like the EU market. Even so, Ford will never build enough Focus capacity to vie for the #1 spot. US Focus will never be built at 2 plants, and 2 plants worth of output is required for the #1 spot in the U.S. "never" as in "not for a long time" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Oh, as in "Waiter do you expect me to eat this garbage?" "No, sir, only the morsels of food." Saying 'best selling car' as a comparison to 'best selling overall vehicle' is not a 1:1 comparison. By eliminating one of the largest segments of the NA market, you selectively ignore the NA market in order to make it appear more like the EU market. Even so, Ford will never build enough Focus capacity to vie for the #1 spot. US Focus will never be built at 2 plants, and 2 plants worth of output is required for the #1 spot in the U.S. "never" as in "not for a long time" OK but what is this thread about "Replying to Focus Sales slipping in Europe down 8% this year" Oh dear its time for your word crunching tactics again, the thread is about "car sales" . You just have to make it into something else. Well done as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 OK but what is this thread about "Replying to Focus Sales slipping in Europe down 8% this year"Oh dear its time for your word crunching tactics again, the thread is about "car sales" . You just have to make it into something else. Well done as usual. No. It is about "best selling vehicles". Pretending that trucks don't count clouds your judgment. The reason why there are no trucks on the list of best selling vehicles in Europe (whatever 'Europe' that those records are from), is because they aren't that popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 (edited) PRESS RELEASE November 19, 2007 European car market holding firm year-to-date • Market up 0.8% YtD • Volkswagen biggest selling brand • Golf is top selling model • Premium German brands performing The European market for new cars demonstrated significant growth of 5.6% (or 69,183 units) in October 2007 compared to the same month last year, with a total volume of 1,298,704 units. YtD, the total market has increased slightly, with growth of 0.8% (102,541 units) to a total 13,333,615 units. http://www.jato.com/extFrameSet.asp?page=54 Top models The Volkswagen Golf was Europe’s top-selling new car in October 2007 with 40,370 units sold (up 20.9%), ahead of the Peugeot 207 with 39,230 units sold (up 25.1%), Opel/Vauxhall Corsa with 31,192 units sold (up 37.5%), Renault Clio (31,016 units), Opel/Vauxhall Astra (29,937 units), Ford Focus (29,235 units), Fiat Punto (28,766 units), Ford Fiesta (25,032 units), Volkswagen Passat (24,987 units) and Volkswagen Polo with 24,925 units sold (up 1.5%). I beleive this is the website Jellymould originally posted the numbers from. Edited November 24, 2007 by MKII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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