SUZ99 Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 They edited this article after talking to Mark this morning and getting his comments, if anyone is interested. JUST READ THE ARTICLE. I'M NOT SURPRISED THAT JC IS BACKING OUT. AS FOR FORD WORKERS RETURNING TO SALINE---COME ON PEOPLE WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? MOST OF US LEFT TO BE ABLE TO STAY FORD. I WISH ALL THE WORKERS AT SALINE THE BEST. WHETHER THEY BE FORD WORKERS OR TEMPS. GOOD LUCK BECAUSE WITH THE RUMOR MILL AT SALINE YOUR GOING TO HEAR A TON OF S**T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 JUST READ THE ARTICLE. I'M NOT SURPRISED THAT JC IS BACKING OUT. AS FOR FORD WORKERS RETURNING TO SALINE---COME ON PEOPLE WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? MOST OF US LEFT TO BE ABLE TO STAY FORD. I WISH ALL THE WORKERS AT SALINE THE BEST. WHETHER THEY BE FORD WORKERS OR TEMPS. GOOD LUCK BECAUSE WITH THE RUMOR MILL AT SALINE YOUR GOING TO HEAR A TON OF S**T. Stay tuned!!! :reading: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Stay tuned!!! :reading: Your wanting us to stay tuned about ILO'ed blue workers returning correct. Im sure you are. Thanks Capt'n.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-lo Saline Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Your wanting us to stay tuned about ILO'ed blue workers returning correct. Im sure you are. Thanks Capt'n.. I wonder when or if this would be annouced?Anyone hearing anything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I wonder when or if this would be annouced?Anyone hearing anything else? The only thing I was told in regaurds to that was that no blue are returning. Its not to say this won't happen. ILO'ed people could have a shot still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Your wanting us to stay tuned about ILO'ed blue workers returning correct. Im sure you are. Thanks Capt'n.. You have a good guy (Pete) working on it....he is trying to make sure everyone is protected...Blue and Orange!! I heard he is doing some serious lobbying!! He wants to make sure everyone's kids are taken care of too!! I am certain Saliners will be fine!! Stay tuned! :reading: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordguy61mi Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 You have a good guy (Pete) working on it....he is trying to make sure everyone is protected...Blue and Orange!! I heard he is doing some serious lobbying!! He wants to make sure everyone's kids are taken care of too!! I am certain Saliners will be fine!!Stay tuned! :reading: Okay, he said we're fine. I'm going out tomorrow and buying a new Ultra Classic! woo hoo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Okay, he said we're fine. I'm going out tomorrow and buying a new Ultra Classic! woo hoo! You put that check book away mister! He said Pete's working on it. :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Okay, he said we're fine. I'm going out tomorrow and buying a new Ultra Classic! woo hoo! Ultra classic is a sweet ass bike. Your so safe buy 2! Can you name any other Ford owned plant that they have sunk 50 million in this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereswaldo Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Ultra classic is a sweet ass bike. Your so safe buy 2! Can you name any other Ford owned plant that they have sunk 50 million in this year? Yeah....in Brazil....Mexico........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordguy61mi Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 (edited) *puts checkbook away while Pete "works" on it* MUST....FIGHT....SATAN..... Wait, Cap'n said I could buy 2!! Seriously though, I have never seen the kind of investment that Ford is putting into this place now. They CAN'T have any plans to close it, so if there are no buyers, then I think we're good for now. Actually I'd like to say we're good until the next contract, but that might be wishful thinking. Edited August 9, 2008 by fordguy61mi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raws41900 Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 not sure if this was posted.. detnews article. http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic...UTO01/808090339 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
factory Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 You have a good guy (Pete) working on it....he is trying to make sure everyone is protected...Blue and Orange!! I heard he is doing some serious lobbying!! He wants to make sure everyone's kids are taken care of too!! I am certain Saliners will be fine!!Stay tuned! :reading: I DONT KNOW HOW YOU CAN HAVE ALL THESE COMPANIES (ach) "Controlled" by "ford"...but at the same time have 1000 people in protective status. If they are controlled y ford then no one should be ILO...renegotiations are in order....They have tricked ALL of us. 1000's of people working for $14...and another 1000 with no return to work date...wtf??These people were replaced in a smooth way---and we let em, without a fight...nobody should go voluntarily----then the layoffs would be more fair..by senoirity, I think they are oligated to go ack to the table with ford to send people ack to ach.......(THEY ARE STILL FORD UNLESS THEY CLOSE OR SELL)...I dont see why we have let this happen---and its still happening ....the company is doing WHATEVER they want. I would guess that ILO'd people WILL END UP BEING BROUGHT BACK...How dare they be replaced==yet ford still runs the companies...wtf?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriper Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 *puts checkbook away while Pete "works" on it* MUST....FIGHT....SATAN..... Wait, Cap'n said I could buy 2!! Seriously though, I have never seen the kind of investment that Ford is putting into this place now. They CAN'T have any plans to close it, so if there are no buyers, then I think we're good for now. Actually I'd like to say we're good until the next contract, but that might be wishful thinking. careful saline,you might see a sandusky contract coming ,who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-lo Saline Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 careful saline,you might see a sandusky contract coming ,who knows? Elaborate for those of that don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriper Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Elaborate for those of that don't know. check sandusky newspaper for article,sandusky agreed to a local agreement for a significant wage reduction,work rule changes,job condsolidation.and ford agreed to keep them open thru this contract,they are also in the ahc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriper Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 check sandusky newspaper for article,sandusky agreed to a local agreement for a significant wage reduction,work rule changes,job condsolidation.and ford agreed to keep them open thru this contract,they are also in the ahc the thread was on here also ,a little backsearching will find it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordguy61mi Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 check sandusky newspaper for article,sandusky agreed to a local agreement for a significant wage reduction,work rule changes,job condsolidation.and ford agreed to keep them open thru this contract,they are also in the ahc I doubt we'd vote for that. With the millions of dollars Ford is throwing at this plant, they obviously don't plan on closing it in the near future. But then again, this is Ford we're talking about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriper Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I doubt we'd vote for that. With the millions of dollars Ford is throwing at this plant, they obviously don't plan on closing it in the near future. But then again, this is Ford we're talking about! your right,but do you really think mulally is just gonna let you sit out there in farmland and forget about you? to me this would seem to be the time to get on your locals ass for answers,we learned the hard way with joel here at raws,silence is your enemy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordguy61mi Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 your right,but do you really think mulally is just gonna let you sit out there in farmland and forget about you? to me this would seem to be the time to get on your locals ass for answers,we learned the hard way with joel here at raws,silence is your enemy It's like being in a cave, you can't see two feet in front of your face these days. I can't even begin to speculate on things anymore. Nothing would surprise me at this point. I just wish the best for us all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipefitter Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 careful saline,you might see a sandusky contract coming ,who knows? You don't have a clue. You should not "chirp" about something you you are not familiar with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordguy61mi Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 (edited) *EDIT* Oops, sorry, I duplicated my last post. Edited August 10, 2008 by fordguy61mi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rorck and roll Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 your right,but do you really think mulally is just gonna let you sit out there in farmland and forget about you? to me this would seem to be the time to get on your locals ass for answers,we learned the hard way with joel here at raws,silence is your enemy Saline, beware. What I understand is that your plant makes consoles and door panels. Why would Ford pay 72 an hour for you folks to build them when companies are going out of business paying less that 22 an hour all in? I would suspect that the committee their is going to have to give a lot of things up to stay open. Are the orange people going to get a raise? Are they going to get upgraded health insurance instead of only having catastrophic health care? If they take you back under the oval, how are they going to phase out Rawsonville and Sterling while you are brought back into the fold? Be very cautious, ask questions, and demand that the Union give you all the information they have about bump in rights (bet there are none), upgrading the benefit package for the current orange temps (bet there are none). Learn from history folks, the past has the anwser. In the late 70's Ford invested over 150 million into Flat Rock casting, then closed the place. They were still bringing new equipment on the day we were walked out. The 50 mill they have put into Saline was mostly to take care of enviormental issues and work from C@A with the door panels from Utica. Don't get too excited about a full return under the blue oval. Ford is not going to close assembly plants to keep open a facility that makes door panels. They may temporarily keep you open to dump JSP people into your plant before they can place them at an assembly plant, but you will never be Ford as you were in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 *puts checkbook away while Pete "works" on it* MUST....FIGHT....SATAN..... Wait, Cap'n said I could buy 2!! Seriously though, I have never seen the kind of investment that Ford is putting into this place now. They CAN'T have any plans to close it, so if there are no buyers, then I think we're good for now. Actually I'd like to say we're good until the next contract, but that might be wishful thinking. 49 million and counting!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 your right,but do you really think mulally is just gonna let you sit out there in farmland and forget about you? to me this would seem to be the time to get on your locals ass for answers,we learned the hard way with joel here at raws,silence is your enemy Hey crapper...keep your Joel bashing to your Rawsonville thread!! Gosh...get a fricken life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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