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Wether or not the contract saved them technically, He was right and they still had a JOB!

He has not promised me nothing. I do not expect anything from him other then to do a good job at what he was elected to do. And he does a fine job.

 

 

Are you pissed that you can't run again?

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No I never planned on running, I'm just amazed how easily you can be fooled by someones B.S.

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Nice that they have expereance but they cant run for office anyway. They have to be at saline at least one year, or so Ive been told.

 

Wow what did I get started with this thread?. If the constitution and the Local By-Lays prevent Jon Snyder and Dave Perez from running they will except it, both are true unionist and activist in the Union cause. I dont know the Politics at Saline but I know that Jon will have enfluence on all that come from AAI, he also has ties with people from other plants that will be comming to Saline, not to mention the people who come to Saline in 2000 from AAI, Dave also has alot of pull from the people from AAI and people working at Saline. Like I said I dont know your poiltics but If I were running I would want to get to know these guys.

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No I never planned on running, I'm just amazed how easily you can be fooled by someones B.S.

 

 

BY the looks of it, You left and are returning. And you have room to talk? :hysterical:

 

If you think what happened years ago is worse then the shit that is going on now. You are out of touch. :redcard:

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BY the looks of it, You left and are returning. And you have room to talk? :hysterical:

 

If you think what happened years ago is worse then the shit that is going on now. You are out of touch. :redcard:

 

 

If "Returnee" would have listen to Tom he or she would have a different name. Maybe "Staying Put". :hysterical:

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Wow what did I get started with this thread?. If the constitution and the Local By-Lays prevent Jon Snyder and Dave Perez from running they will except it, both are true unionist and activist in the Union cause. I dont know the Politics at Saline but I know that Jon will have enfluence on all that come from AAI, he also has ties with people from other plants that will be comming to Saline, not to mention the people who come to Saline in 2000 from AAI, Dave also has alot of pull from the people from AAI and people working at Saline. Like I said I dont know your poiltics but If I were running I would want to get to know these guys.

 

 

 

"hedgehog21"... AKA... Jon Snyder ????

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When you are referring to anything related to Ford Motor Company, what exactly does "temporary" mean? If you're so worldly and wise as to know what is going to happen at Saline(or any other plant for that matter), a year to a year and a half from now, you're wasting that precious mind of yours. You should be on Wall street or taking the casinos for everything they are worth. When MTP folks signed up for Dearborn and Woodhaven, it was printed clearly on the posting, that by signing that posting, we would have NO return to basic unit rights to MTP or Local 900. Low and behold, after all the drama played out, every one of us that transferred out still has recall rights to local 900 and the future Michigan Assembly Plant. I've noticed that Ford has been pretty consistent on panic protection. I'm thinking that once you have hundreds of former assembly plant workers with 15-22 years seniority at Saline, it's going to be pretty difficult to convince the UAW that they all need to go back to assembly plants so the younger folks can go enjoy the country club. And what IS the safest way to tell all those temps that the people that they are training to do a job are probably going to be here for a whole lot longer than a year, which means the vast majority of those temps probably have a better chance of going to an assembly plant than returning to Club Saline? So, if there is an election after we all get to Saline, I would hope that each every person that came from somewhere else, would just go ahead and consider their self a PERMANENT employee of Saline and approach any election accordingly. How's this for a flashback; 'I could have been a committee person, but I thought I was only going to be here for a year'. :fan:

 

Now, if you're of the mind that we should all JUST BE GLAD THAT WE STILL HAVE A JOB, like the shitheads that promoted the concessions, then just stay with the rest of the flock of sheople and do as you're told. Pay as you're told. Sacrifice as you're told. Maintain the status quo and listen to Kool-Aid drinkin' motherfuckers like this one here.

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Oh!---and by the way---go back to my original post and see what you miss-understood. I ain't wordly ass-munch. But I do know what the fuck I'm talking about. (period) I said "I have an idea" about the election. :slug: If you are gonna try and play me---keep it original. You aren't one of those that try to keep the membership in fear are you? I get spooky vibes from you. :woot:

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To Saline workers with all of the people comming into your plant you have got some real Unionist's and former union officials from many local plants , I reccomend that you look at them closley I hear your elections are soon comming up. I wish Jon Snyder was in office now the committee needs his expierence to help the membership through these tough times, from what I hear he is working on thr Mustang IP line I always voted for him he was a very good for the membership, he has alot of fight for what is right and alot of expierence and knowledge. The other person to look at is Dave Perez He has been a district rep he was on the execuetive board at Local 3000 and has a good union heart I hear he works somewhere in the Mustang door panel line. This is just a suggestion go talk with them get to know them they will be there if you need them just my two cents.

If they are so good how come they are not still in office at flatrock? :stirpot: :happy feet:

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Oh!---and by the way---go back to my original post and see what you miss-understood. I ain't wordly ass-munch. But I do know what the fuck I'm talking about. (period) I said "I have an idea" about the election. :slug: If you are gonna try and play me---keep it original. You aren't one of those that try to keep the membership in fear are you? I get spooky vibes from you. :woot:

 

Pulse, you sure are a sensitive little bitch. You thin-skinned types that get your feelings hurt so easily should stick to nursery rhymes and stay off the forums. We're talking about grown up stuff. Now run along and play make believe somewhere else.

Everything I've said on here has been basic fact and common sense. You say people shouldn't run for election at Saline because they will only be there a year. All I said was keep your options open. That year can turn into a lot longer. They are not going to kick high seniority out of the plant and turn around and bring temps back in here. Most of what we hear when these changes are being made, does not happen at all.

Ask anyone that was at MTP right before we closed. They told us we were getting the F100, then canceled. They posted for tag relief, then canceled. They posted jobs in our plant for a third shift next door at Wayne Assembly, then canceled. There are still folks with as high as '88 sen. from MTP waiting to go to Dearborn Engine on lay off since November and are now being told that they will not go to Engine, that they will "most likely go to Wayne Assembly". The moral of the story is: Just because Ford or the UAW tells you something today, does not mean it will ever happen. Don't pass up on opportunities because you were told "this is only temporary". I thought I was a "permanent" employee at MTP. After 14 years, it turns out, I was only "temporary". So again, what does temporary mean? Life is temporary.

 

I explained my views on this in detail in my original post on this thread. It seems Pulse is one of those devout supporters of the current UAW hierarchy, and my "guess" is, he also supported the concessions. So that would explain why he does not want any seniority transfers running for office at Saline. Which is a shame, because if my memory is right, Saline's local voted down the concessions. Must've been the disgruntled temps. And let me shatter another myth for you all. You do NOT have to be in the same local for a year to be eligible to run for office in that local. You just have to be a UAW member in good standing for the past 12 months. Which basically means that your union dues must be paid up to date. So yes, most of the folks transferring to Saline will be eligible to run in the next election. Look it up.

And no, my message is NOT one of fear. I just want people to realize that they have these options and again, don't be that person that is still at Saline 3 or 5 or 10 years from now that never ran for office or bid on a preferred job because someone bullshitted you into believing that you would only be there for a year or so. Approach this transfer as if it is a permanent assignment. You have more to lose or miss out on by listening to Pulse than by listening to me.

 

Peace.

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Pulse, you sure are a sensitive little bitch. You thin-skinned types that get your feelings hurt so easily should stick to nursery rhymes and stay off the forums. We're talking about grown up stuff. Now run along and play make believe somewhere else.

Everything I've said on here has been basic fact and common sense. You say people shouldn't run for election at Saline because they will only be there a year. All I said was keep your options open. That year can turn into a lot longer. They are not going to kick high seniority out of the plant and turn around and bring temps back in here. Most of what we hear when these changes are being made, does not happen at all.

Ask anyone that was at MTP right before we closed. They told us we were getting the F100, then canceled. They posted for tag relief, then canceled. They posted jobs in our plant for a third shift next door at Wayne Assembly, then canceled. There are still folks with as high as '88 sen. from MTP waiting to go to Dearborn Engine on lay off since November and are now being told that they will not go to Engine, that they will "most likely go to Wayne Assembly". The moral of the story is: Just because Ford or the UAW tells you something today, does not mean it will ever happen. Don't pass up on opportunities because you were told "this is only temporary". I thought I was a "permanent" employee at MTP. After 14 years, it turns out, I was only "temporary". So again, what does temporary mean? Life is temporary.

 

I explained my views on this in detail in my original post on this thread. It seems Pulse is one of those devout supporters of the current UAW hierarchy, and my "guess" is, he also supported the concessions. So that would explain why he does not want any seniority transfers running for office at Saline. Which is a shame, because if my memory is right, Saline's local voted down the concessions. Must've been the disgruntled temps. And let me shatter another myth for you all. You do NOT have to be in the same local for a year to be eligible to run for office in that local. You just have to be a UAW member in good standing for the past 12 months. Which basically means that your union dues must be paid up to date. So yes, most of the folks transferring to Saline will be eligible to run in the next election. Look it up.

And no, my message is NOT one of fear. I just want people to realize that they have these options and again, don't be that person that is still at Saline 3 or 5 or 10 years from now that never ran for office or bid on a preferred job because someone bullshitted you into believing that you would only be there for a year or so. Approach this transfer as if it is a permanent assignment. You have more to lose or miss out on by listening to Pulse than by listening to me.

 

Peace.

:shift: :shift: :shift:

 

Here goes some knowledge for you f'k stick. If you knew ANYTHING you would follow your own advice and"look it up". You can spew that chit and just go back to playing with your Barbie Dolls or light saber. I'm still trying to be nice to you, but my patience with your constant river of BULLCHIT is running thinner than the diahria coming from your mouth. Number 1. Einstein! The "temps were NOT eligible to vote on the MODS that were just passed. They are covered under a separate aggreement. HEY! Get your finger out of your nose! Number 2. Dumbass! Art. 38 sec. 3 of the UAW Constitution clearly states the opposite of your erroneous OPINION (which is all it is). The page number is 106 if you need some more help. HEY! Pay attention! Don't drift off. What's the matter did you forget your ADHD meds today? Number 3. Loser. Have you ever run for office? Do you know what an election costs? Do you have ANY clue what the churning off elected officials does to an organization? NO I didn't thing so. Find something better to do and leave the brain work for those that have the capacity to handle it. Oh and don't burn yourself on the easy-bake oven! And stop pulling down Kens pants every two minutes. His is still bigger than you. :banmolest:

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Here goes some knowledge for you f'k stick. If you knew ANYTHING you would follow your own advice and"look it up". You can spew that chit and just go back to playing with your Barbie Dolls or light saber. I'm still trying to be nice to you, but my patience with your constant river of BULLCHIT is running thinner than the diahria coming from your mouth. Number 1. Einstein! The "temps were NOT eligible to vote on the MODS that were just passed. They are covered under a separate aggreement. HEY! Get your finger out of your nose! Number 2. Dumbass! Art. 38 sec. 3 of the UAW Constitution clearly states the opposite of your erroneous OPINION (which is all it is). The page number is 106 if you need some more help. HEY! Pay attention! Don't drift off. What's the matter did you forget your ADHD meds today? Number 3. Loser. Have you ever run for office? Do you know what an election costs? Do you have ANY clue what the churning off elected officials does to an organization? NO I didn't thing so. Find something better to do and leave the brain work for those that have the capacity to handle it. Oh and don't burn yourself on the easy-bake oven! And stop pulling down Kens pants every two minutes. His is still bigger than you. :banmolest:

 

Very nice explaination but I would like to add that Local By-Laws state in order to run for a local elected position you must must be a member in good standing for 1 year prior to the nominations for the election.

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Very nice explaination but I would like to add that Local By-Laws state in order to run for a local elected position you must must be a member in good standing for 1 year prior to the nominations for the election.

 

Thanks, I did however mention that in a previous post. Probably missed it sifting through all the bullchit from the "fonz"

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QUOTE (DetroitFanz @ Mar 26 2009, 09:53 AM)

Pulse, you sure are a sensitive little bitch. You thin-skinned types that get your feelings hurt so easily should stick to nursery rhymes and stay off the forums. We're talking about grown up stuff. Now run along and play make believe somewhere else.

Everything I've said on here has been basic fact and common sense. You say people shouldn't run for election at Saline because they will only be there a year. All I said was keep your options open. That year can turn into a lot longer. They are not going to kick high seniority out of the plant and turn around and bring temps back in here. Most of what we hear when these changes are being made, does not happen at all.

Ask anyone that was at MTP right before we closed. They told us we were getting the F100, then canceled. They posted for tag relief, then canceled. They posted jobs in our plant for a third shift next door at Wayne Assembly, then canceled. There are still folks with as high as '88 sen. from MTP waiting to go to Dearborn Engine on lay off since November and are now being told that they will not go to Engine, that they will "most likely go to Wayne Assembly". The moral of the story is: Just because Ford or the UAW tells you something today, does not mean it will ever happen. Don't pass up on opportunities because you were told "this is only temporary". I thought I was a "permanent" employee at MTP. After 14 years, it turns out, I was only "temporary". So again, what does temporary mean? Life is temporary.

 

I explained my views on this in detail in my original post on this thread. It seems Pulse is one of those devout supporters of the current UAW hierarchy, and my "guess" is, he also supported the concessions. So that would explain why he does not want any seniority transfers running for office at Saline. Which is a shame, because if my memory is right, Saline's local voted down the concessions. Must've been the disgruntled temps. And let me shatter another myth for you all. You do NOT have to be in the same local for a year to be eligible to run for office in that local. You just have to be a UAW member in good standing for the past 12 months. Which basically means that your union dues must be paid up to date. So yes, most of the folks transferring to Saline will be eligible to run in the next election. Look it up.

And no, my message is NOT one of fear. I just want people to realize that they have these options and again, don't be that person that is still at Saline 3 or 5 or 10 years from now that never ran for office or bid on a preferred job because someone bullshitted you into believing that you would only be there for a year or so. Approach this transfer as if it is a permanent assignment. You have more to lose or miss out on by listening to Pulse than by listening to me.

 

Peace.

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Very nice explaination but I would like to add that Local By-Laws state in order to run for a local elected position you must must be a member in good standing for 1 year prior to the nominations for the election.

 

I clearly stated that in my post. And what he keeps saying is wrong. There is a petition process that allows all members in good standing to run in an election regardless of how long you haven't been at your current local. We've dealt with these issues at MTP you would be stunned at how much crap is in your local contract that you can force IUAW intervene on. Been there done that. Just because Pulse or his cronies haven't dealt with it does not mean it isn't so. Also, "churning" is exactly what brings the cream to the top. Pulse is doing everything he can to dissuade anyone new to Saline from even looking into running for office. He's getting extremely emotional. His fear is showing. I'm not even at Saline yet. Just wait till I get there. One other thing, I was clearly joking about the temps voting down the "concessions". But you wouldn't know it by listening to kool-aid drinking ass kissers like pulse.

 

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QUOTE (DetroitFanz @ Mar 26 2009, 09:53 AM)

Pulse, you sure are a sensitive little bitch. You thin-skinned types that get your feelings hurt so easily should stick to nursery rhymes and stay off the forums. We're talking about grown up stuff. Now run along and play make believe somewhere else.

Everything I've said on here has been basic fact and common sense. You say people shouldn't run for election at Saline because they will only be there a year. All I said was keep your options open. That year can turn into a lot longer. They are not going to kick high seniority out of the plant and turn around and bring temps back in here. Most of what we hear when these changes are being made, does not happen at all.

Ask anyone that was at MTP right before we closed. They told us we were getting the F100, then canceled. They posted for tag relief, then canceled. They posted jobs in our plant for a third shift next door at Wayne Assembly, then canceled. There are still folks with as high as '88 sen. from MTP waiting to go to Dearborn Engine on lay off since November and are now being told that they will not go to Engine, that they will "most likely go to Wayne Assembly". The moral of the story is: Just because Ford or the UAW tells you something today, does not mean it will ever happen. Don't pass up on opportunities because you were told "this is only temporary". I thought I was a "permanent" employee at MTP. After 14 years, it turns out, I was only "temporary". So again, what does temporary mean? Life is temporary.

 

I explained my views on this in detail in my original post on this thread. It seems Pulse is one of those devout supporters of the current UAW hierarchy, and my "guess" is, he also supported the concessions. So that would explain why he does not want any seniority transfers running for office at Saline. Which is a shame, because if my memory is right, Saline's local voted down the concessions. Must've been the disgruntled temps. And let me shatter another myth for you all. You do NOT have to be in the same local for a year to be eligible to run for office in that local. You just have to be a UAW member in good standing for the past 12 months. Which basically means that your union dues must be paid up to date. So yes, most of the folks transferring to Saline will be eligible to run in the next election. Look it up.

And no, my message is NOT one of fear. I just want people to realize that they have these options and again, don't be that person that is still at Saline 3 or 5 or 10 years from now that never ran for office or bid on a preferred job because someone bullshitted you into believing that you would only be there for a year or so. Approach this transfer as if it is a permanent assignment. You have more to lose or miss out on by listening to Pulse than by listening to me.

 

Peace.

:shift::shift::shift:

 

 

 

 

 

I clearly stated that in my post. And what he keeps saying is wrong. There is a petition process that allows all members in good standing to run in an election regardless of how long you haven't been at your current local. We've dealt with these issues at MTP you would be stunned at how much crap is in your local contract that you can force IUAW intervene on. Been there done that. Just because Pulse or his cronies haven't dealt with it does not mean it isn't so. Also, "churning" is exactly what brings the cream to the top. Pulse is doing everything he can to dissuade anyone new to Saline from even looking into running for office. He's getting extremely emotional. His fear is showing. I'm not even at Saline yet. Just wait till I get there. One other thing, I was clearly joking about the temps voting down the "concessions". But you wouldn't know it by listening to kool-aid drinking ass kissers like pulse.

 

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You weren't joking about chit. You got popped, just admit it. You have been exposed as a "think they know it all loser". If you had any kind of say-so, you wouldn't be "waiting to go to Saline" now would you. That is NOT a jab at anyone else. This "know nothing" is pounding his chest and stomping his feet like a little spoiled brat. I know this type. He is a "Royal Asshole" because he can't get anyone to listen to his garbage. If I'm trying to get GOOD, RATIONAL info to the people, the fonz labels me as a kool-aid drinking ass kisser. That is rich! Is there a mosquito flying around my ear? I keep hearing this whiny little noise. Now go back and check the easy bake Fonzie. You are out of your league. :reading:

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Here goes some knowledge for you f'k stick. If you knew ANYTHING you would follow your own advice and"look it up". You can spew that chit and just go back to playing with your Barbie Dolls or light saber. I'm still trying to be nice to you, but my patience with your constant river of BULLCHIT is running thinner than the diahria coming from your mouth. Number 1. Einstein! The "temps were NOT eligible to vote on the MODS that were just passed. They are covered under a separate aggreement. HEY! Get your finger out of your nose! Number 2. Dumbass! Art. 38 sec. 3 of the UAW Constitution clearly states the opposite of your erroneous OPINION (which is all it is). The page number is 106 if you need some more help. HEY! Pay attention! Don't drift off. What's the matter did you forget your ADHD meds today? Number 3. Loser. Have you ever run for office? Do you know what an election costs? Do you have ANY clue what the churning off elected officials does to an organization? NO I didn't thing so. Find something better to do and leave the brain work for those that have the capacity to handle it. Oh and don't burn yourself on the easy-bake oven! And stop pulling down Kens pants every two minutes. His is still bigger than you. :banmolest:

 

Please stop quoting the Constitution if you haven't read it. Or at least get the 2006 updated version. Let me help you out:

 

Section 2: Any member in continuous good standing for one (1) year, and who has worked at least ninety (90) working days in a workplace(s) located within the region, whose Local Union is located within the region can be nominated and elected. It shall require a two-thirds (2/3) vote of the International Executive Board to change the composition of any region within a geographical district.Section 6. No member shall be nominated or elected as an elective officer of the International Union, as set forth in Section 1 of this Article, who has not been in continuous good standing for a period of one (1) year preceding the date of nomination.

 

Section 6. No member shall be nominated or elected as an elective officer of the International Union, as set forth in Section 1 of this Article, who has not been in continuous good standing for a period of one (1) year preceding the date of nomination.

 

Just so you fully understand this language, if any brother or sister has worked within the region 90 days prior to nomination and is in good standing for a year, they can run. That's the International UAW 2006 Constitution.

 

You should really consider your spelling before you call someone else a "Dumb ass"

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Please stop quoting the Constitution if you haven't read it. Or at least get the 2006 updated version. Let me help you out:

 

Section 2: Any member in continuous good standing for one (1) year, and who has worked at least ninety (90) working days in a workplace(s) located within the region, whose Local Union is located within the region can be nominated and elected. It shall require a two-thirds (2/3) vote of the International Executive Board to change the composition of any region within a geographical district.Section 6. No member shall be nominated or elected as an elective officer of the International Union, as set forth in Section 1 of this Article, who has not been in continuous good standing for a period of one (1) year preceding the date of nomination.

 

Section 6. No member shall be nominated or elected as an elective officer of the International Union, as set forth in Section 1 of this Article, who has not been in continuous good standing for a period of one (1) year preceding the date of nomination.

 

Just so you fully understand this language, if any brother or sister has worked within the region 90 days prior to nomination and is in good standing for a year, they can run. That's the International UAW 2006 Constitution.

 

You should really consider your spelling before you call someone else a "Dumb ass"

 

Pulse just needs to stop posting.

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Please stop quoting the Constitution if you haven't read it. Or at least get the 2006 updated version. Let me help you out:

 

Section 2: Any member in continuous good standing for one (1) year, and who has worked at least ninety (90) working days in a workplace(s) located within the region, whose Local Union is located within the region can be nominated and elected. It shall require a two-thirds (2/3) vote of the International Executive Board to change the composition of any region within a geographical district.Section 6. No member shall be nominated or elected as an elective officer of the International Union, as set forth in Section 1 of this Article, who has not been in continuous good standing for a period of one (1) year preceding the date of nomination.

 

Section 6. No member shall be nominated or elected as an elective officer of the International Union, as set forth in Section 1 of this Article, who has not been in continuous good standing for a period of one (1) year preceding the date of nomination.

 

Just so you fully understand this language, if any brother or sister has worked within the region 90 days prior to nomination and is in good standing for a year, they can run. That's the International UAW 2006 Constitution.

 

You should really consider your spelling before you call someone else a "Dumb ass"

 

Ok, here's the deal. DUMB-ASS! You just quoted the election of INTERNATIONAL OFFICERS!!!!!!!! I'll be nice and give you this one chance to take a mulligan. Stay out of my business and keep your boy the damaged one with you. Stupid Mutherf'ker.

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LOL....... sounds like we may have to put these 2 in "TIME OUT" , till they can learn to play togather! :hysterical: :happy feet:

 

That's pretty funny. :hysterical: I like your sense of humor. I started out trying to give helpful, factual info. But I can't let the fly's go unswatted. :banvictory:

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Very nice explaination but I would like to add that Local By-Laws state in order to run for a local elected position you must must be a member in good standing for 1 year prior to the nominations for the election.

 

Yes I see it in the By-laws Art. 26 sec. 14. That pretty much settles it. Smart by-law. Now, if folks are still there after three and a half years they will have a good idea of what Saline is about. Then they can run.

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LOL....... sounds like we may have to put these 2 in "TIME OUT" , till they can learn to play togather! :hysterical: :happy feet:

 

I KNOW I KNOW, THEY NEED 2 GET TOGETHER AND PLAY THE BARNEY SONG!!! I LUV U YOU LOVE ME WE'RE

 

ONE HAPPY FAMILY. WITH A GREAT BIG HUG AND A KISS FROM ME TO YOU. WONT U SAY YOU LOVE ME TOO.

 

:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

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I KNOW I KNOW, THEY NEED 2 GET TOGETHER AND PLAY THE BARNEY SONG!!! I LUV U YOU LOVE ME WE'RE

 

ONE HAPPY FAMILY. WITH A GREAT BIG HUG AND A KISS FROM ME TO YOU. WONT U SAY YOU LOVE ME TOO.

 

:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

 

Wow, That really scares me. Not so much the Barney comment, But you seem to know the words to it! :hysterical: :shades:

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Wow, That really scares me. Not so much the Barney comment, But you seem to know the words to it! :hysterical: :shades:

 

That was still some MORE funny shit. I'm a little spooked about knowing the words too. What is even scarier is the thought of my mans kid reciting the words as he types them into blue oval. Sorry man, but that is good stuff! :beerchug:

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