flint Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Here is a good opportunity to show "our union" and the company that we're not going to allow another grievance to be swept under the rug. The contract should never had went foward until this grievance was settled upon first! It will either be forgotten or we will be offered squat-after we ratify this agreement. There will be no motivation for the company to settle it with a "fair" conclusion if we dont hold them to it PRIOR to the agreement of the contract....typical union performance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Here is a good opportunity to show "our union" and the company that we're not going to allow another grievance to be swept under the rug. The contract should never had went foward until this grievance was settled upon first! It will either be forgotten or we will be offered squat-after we ratify this agreement. There will be no motivation for the company to settle it with a "fair" conclusion if we dont hold them to it PRIOR to the agreement of the contract....typical union performance. Flint, you were never going anywhere with this grievance. This was done merely to save face. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trufflebuns Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Flint, you were never going anywhere with this grievance. This was done merely to save face. I don't doubt what you say is true considering it's King we are saddled with but, he will need to hide his face in shame if this grievance isn't settled lucratively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flint Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 Understandably so...per our unions usual handling of grievances-BUT, at least this grievance is backed by the entire membership and has been made public and news worthy. I just feel the union had a hold on a nice bargaining tool-and just rolled over again. The company should have been held to settle "all" prior grievances prior to settlement of the new contract-but why are we having to "school" our own leadership on what "should" be done??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordguy61mi Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Understandably so...per our unions usual handling of grievances-BUT, at least this grievance is backed by the entire membership and has been made public and news worthy. I just feel the union had a hold on a nice bargaining tool-and just rolled over again. The company should have been held to settle "all" prior grievances prior to settlement of the new contract-but why are we having to "school" our own leadership on what "should" be done??? Because they're getting compensated for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTPwife Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 On the UAW Ford Facebook page it was stated that there is a court date to deal with the grievance at the end of the month. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern0902 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Face it king is padding his pocket.wake up an relize it.handed down a monopoly to play with.breaking down our power as a union,just like scattering tribes of idians.we do not have a chance(even if we vote no).they will pass it anyway.ONLY CHANCEIS TO "STRIKE". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelincolns Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 And it will backfire on King and Settles. They needed to come back with an extra 2 to 4 k and say the grievance was settled. Didn't the grievance go to arbitration? That would take it out of the hands of both the company and union. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
228electrician Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Didn't the grievance go to arbitration? That would take it out of the hands of both the company and union. you are corrent, it was given another 30 days to finish, and the UAW nor the Company has any say in the outcome( 3rd party arbitration), so what they say, goes, but my opionion, its not gonna be that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailfndr Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 My understanding is that just like civil court cases the parties can work out an agreement on their own. Exactly, Until the Arbitrator makes his ruling, the two sides can still settle it on thier own. Once the ruling is made by the arbitrator...its done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Real? Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Didn't the grievance go to arbitration? That would take it out of the hands of both the company and union. Yep, the grievance went to arbitration. But, you have these fuckers on here complaining about shit all the time. It wouldn't matter if we all got a ton of money in arbitration--these low life losers would complain they didn't get more. Fuck em. Once it goes to arbitration, it is out of our hands and the companies hands. The arbitrator decides, period. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Here is a good opportunity to show "our union" and the company that we're not going to allow another grievance to be swept under the rug. The contract should never had went foward until this grievance was settled upon first! It will either be forgotten or we will be offered squat-after we ratify this agreement. There will be no motivation for the company to settle it with a "fair" conclusion if we dont hold them to it PRIOR to the agreement of the contract....typical union performance. Because of people like you, this grievance will go to an arbitrator and crash and burn. You and those of you who think that they have a sense of entitlement will be the demise of this grievance because you think that you deserve a new car and your house paid for out of the grievance. It will not be settle prior to a settlement with an arbitrator because of you! If it were settled prior to arbitration it could be appealed, so instead of getting something, you force the hands that try and feed you...and the hand will be forced to drop the food on the floor and the dog with eat it and you will get none! Thank you Mr. Arbitrator! Brilliant! We are soo smart....much smarter than a fifth grader! Maybe you should try and get on that show to get your extra cash....you will probably have a better chance at that then thinking you can tell the company how much they pay or give their salaried employees! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Hey, its the Solid house mole. So your telling us that you know and can show the langauge that backs you up, or you just spreading the sullied house lies again. Dude, the UAW lawyers are taking it to arbitration, there will be no settlement outside of arbitration....think about it...there is a settlement and the company pays out and then someone appeals it...not going to happen....going to arbitration...hope we win, but if we lose the ramnifications are much worse than losing, it will mean the language we have isn't worth beans and the company can do whatever they want with their salaries....Hell if the Government can't stop corporate greed, do you think an arbitrator can?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 You mean Hardwick II right? Yeah, the Ford appeal to the original case settled and agreed to by a lower court judge subsequently overturned. All you had to do was mention it. I forgot that the union doesn't like its rank and file to know about that. What dooes that have anything to do with anything???? The UAW didn't over turn it and why would the UAW care if you know or knew about a case overturned by a judge....did the UAW play a role in that...WOW I love this site. What the phuck does that have to do with this arbitration case?? Brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrX Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Because of people like you, this grievance will go to an arbitrator and crash and burn. You and those of you who think that they have a sense of entitlement will be the demise of this grievance because you think that you deserve a new car and your house paid for out of the grievance. It will not be settle prior to a settlement with an arbitrator because of you! If it were settled prior to arbitration it could be appealed, so instead of getting something, you force the hands that try and feed you...and the hand will be forced to drop the food on the floor and the dog with eat it and you will get none! Thank you Mr. Arbitrator! Brilliant! We are soo smart....much smarter than a fifth grader! Maybe you should try and get on that show to get your extra cash....you will probably have a better chance at that then thinking you can tell the company how much they pay or give their salaried employees! :hysterical: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 :hysterical: :hysterical2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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