akirby Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 You can't make an absolute statement that GM is manufacturing small cars profitably in the US, then tell me I have to prove otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Forget it. Not worth it. Edited October 18, 2016 by Pioneer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Non-Union workforces And there is only one plant making Civics only...the other is making CR-Vs and the Crosstour (which I don't think is in production any more) and the Acura RDX, which I know isn't in production any more. Honda has Indiana and 2 lines in Canada making the Civic. And you should shitcan your early 2000s thinking also... What it boils down to is that smaller cars (what you keep harping about incessantly about) isn't as important to Ford in North America as it is to the rest of the world. Ford isn't stopping development of new products (we'll see an enlarged Focus in the next 18-24 months and a new Fiesta) like you claim they are...they are prioritizing development of products for its market places. The Escape is going to get more attention in NA then ROW because its second best selling product here. Same with the Fusion...the US prefers bigger cars and ONLY buys subcompacts when gas prices are high. I have no problem with Ford only being the 3th-4th best selling small car in the North American marketplace if they are profitable at it. its not like small sedans is exactly a growth market world wide either... Its not like Honda is going to take over the pickup market with the Ridgeline (which languished without a major update for years...much for the same reason why Ford does what it does with the Focus) Ford is not going to grow without maintaining investment in products, what happens after the new generation of small car come out, and they are forced to wait another 7-8 years before replacement? this company like it's peers has to be able to maintian a consitand replacement cycle for ALL CARS AND TRUCKS. ford is doing nothing to reduce the cost to develop new vehicles, which makes it easier to sustain the replacement cycle. The current Civic, new CR-V and upcoming Accord all share a common platform. That is one way to better spread costs, which particularly benefits the Civic. And the current Civic has moved upmarket...if you want a cheap, commuter car from Honda, you buy a Fit. Which is not manufactured in this country. you invest in true cost reducion not vague Bumper Sticker cost reductions. you can bend the cost curve for product development, and break the cycle of launch and abandon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 Ford is not going to grow without maintaining investment in products, what happens after the new generation of small car come out, and they are forced to wait another 7-8 years before replacement? this company like it's peers has to be able to maintian a consitand replacement cycle for ALL CARS AND TRUCKS. And there you go moving goal posts again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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