Sherminator98

Yeah I'd say that is just boiler plate....there are no local battery plants in Canada AFAIK to Oakville and the plans to build them for the 3 row went up in smoke with them getting canceled?

In the grand scheme of things, how many times do you actually do that? I know I live in the Northeast, so a "long" drive is about 3 hours and in other parts of the country, that same "long" drive is say 5 hours-in the midwest where things are more spread out. Charging in my area is decent to good, but we have about 10-20% EV penetration I'll most likely go EV with my next car, but I doubt I'll be getting anything for another 5 years or so-I don't even have 20K on my Bronco and it will be 3 years in about 6 months. I go into the office 2x a week and my total commute is under 30 miles.

I just looked at a map-the Battery plant in Kentucky is about 50 miles from LAP and roughly 300 miles from BOC The other thing to consider is maybe the KY battery plant cells might be used for P/HEVs...Kentucky Truck isn't far from it either and it makes sense to go HEV or EHEV with the Super Duties.

Your ignoring the other factors at play here-mostly Inflation and other factors like demographics. The other issue is EV have an image issue with some buyers due to all the noise and ignorance of perspective buyers that don't have a clue. If you can charge at home, an EV should work for the vast majority of people, but buyers expect an EV to work exactly like a gas powered car.

But the vast majority of them do otherwise...not to mention NSX isn't being sold by Acura anymore so that doesn't count either.

Every single luxury car make shares a platform with its lesser brand...

Buick Is GM’s Budget Brand Now, Not Chevy Average Buick Sells for Less Than the Average Chevrolet I'm guessing this partly due to how much the Silverado sells for and Buick not selling a truck.

Well in US at least, cars are classified by size by interior room-that is why at some point the Accord was considered a fullsize without a sunroof a while back. I having a Bronco and Bronco Sport (Ranger vs Maverick) I can say that the Bronco is only slightly wider interior wise vs the BS, but are more or less identical. The big difference between the Ranger and the Maverick is overall length, with the Ranger being 10 inches longer. I'm wondering if the new CE1 EV straddles that at 205 or so in OL.

The first CE1 EV is supposedly going to be a smaller pickup roughly in between the Maverick and Ranger. My SWAG for this is that all EV production gets consolidated at BOC (CE1 and T3 pickups) and Louisville gets a C2 based P/HEV to keep it busy in 2026 or so to replace the Escape/Corsair and maybe add a larger product to replace the Edge? The other thought I had is these EV pickups might be branded as Broncos in some shape or form, so they don't step too much on the toes of the Ranger and Maverick? I'm guessing we will find out more in the next couple of months....Ford has said they will show their plans off early next year, which I'm assuming is going to take account of whatever the new administration changes.

But at what point does all that extra weight offset any savings?

Well it is the British writing it LOL

The Ford Mustang GTD is now the fastest American car around the Nürburgring Wild pony car manages 6m 57.6s run, and Ford reckons it could go even faster.

Well couple of different ways of thinking about this: It cuts down on build complexly for Ford Throws a bone to the dealership to charge labor for installation. Some other reasons for Ford to get rid of it: perimeter access and the Fordpass app I'm guessing Ford will collect data to see how often it is being used. I get the ability to lock your keys in the car (which IMO is a bad idea), but the Fordpass app and the perimeter access make that you either don't need keys or need to take them out your pocket. I had the key access code on my SHO that I used a few times if I didn't have my keys on me to make sure it was locked...otherwise I never remembered the code because I could just touch the door handle (with my keys in my pocket) to get into it. I have my wife's Bronco Sport on my Fordpass app so I can unlock it and not have to carry an extra fob around or find the extra one floating around the house.

Its most likely the OEM one-the 2025 Explorer and Bronco Sport have a similar setup that is a dealer installed accessory. The stick on one is for products like the Bronco and Ranger that don't have the wiring for it. Oddly enough the Maverick (based on the Escape/Bronco Sport) doesn't have an internal keypad in the door, just the stick on one.

Not sure what CR report this is, but in the past, infotainment systems or even cup holders made initial quality reports terrible. Not to mention this isn't your typical CVT Hybrid design that the vast majority of Hybrids are. It uses a motor inside of the 10R Transmission. I haven't driven one yet, but I can see if it acted differently then a typical automatic transmission, that would get peoples attention.

maybe we will be pleasantly suprised

The other issue is that electronics are far more complex if they went that route, that is why the likes of VW is working with Rivian now. The big thing is "software defined" modules that allow them to do different things. Easiest way to explain Software defined is a radio-older military radios used fixed frequencies that could be compromised or jammed. The big thing over the past 10-20 years is make software do everything that a radio needed to do and it would be far easier to change outputs or signals it needed to use, outside of easier crypto loading also. Not to mention if your not used to doing something a different way, it take alot of effort to make people think or do stuff differently. The way electronics are done in cars have been done like that for the past 40 years.

The problem is that automotive styling has been ingrained into people's mind to look like something they expect. What your talking about is starting to get into the "uncanny valley" or the shaved off eyebrow look-it looks similar but since it strays so much from the norm that it repulses people, Then factor in that people who are biggest segment of buyers are typically older (30-40 plus) and aren't too big on huge changes, you'll have resistance to something that pushes the lines too much.

Hasn't Ford's plan changed at least twice since then? 😛

I'd say the biggest issue with new products is getting the sub manufactures of components up to speed to build things, just look at the shitshow with the Bronco hardtops...and I think they are just starting to launch painted ones almost 4 years after production started (not sure if the same company making them either) Just looking at the industry I work in-it took over 6 years to replace what is basically a laptop use for troubleshooting electronics to be fielded. Many of the problems where that it was one of the first times we did it internally, so we where learning as we where going and COVID didn't help.

Strike lasted from 15 September to October 31st. I think that the Ranger was done at that point because they where tooling up for the new model and that didn't really hit the lots till May or so of this year.

EV products are still growning...the Mach E has seen a 25% YTY increase and the Lightning is at 39%

Well you do have a major limitation of having to compensate for the battery pack taking up space in the middle of the car-which isn't exactly trivial in a sedan.