silvrsvt

And you can't get the Performance package with 402A...thus my comment...No BLIS or backup camera with the Performance Package.

I guess BLIS and the back up camera aren't compatible....I wondered the same thing, I don't see why it should be exclusive from one another...

I think it might be wider....but its the same length as a standard F-150 :shrug:

LOL well Hey I am getting A Plan :D Plus whats the point of getting a car if its not loaded?

I guess so...but around 40K with Taxes would be nice Any get the offical EPA MPG numbers yet for it? I think if it gets what its rated at, I think I'll have to turn it down, since thats worse then what my Mustang GT gets now!

Excactly!

I remember that, but it still seems a bit on the high side...normally A/Z plan is roughly the MSRP of the car before options.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/06/16/ford-dr...ficient-trucks/

Since I moved into my Condo, I haven't had a dedicated land line. I was using Vonage for a couple years, but got rid of it after I switched to AT&T for my cell phone provider (Verizon kinda sucked where I lived and worked great every where else but home) Sort of pointless to have one, except for maybe 911 purposes....

Seems like your confused...was complaining about the difference between the MKS and MKX! LOL Anyway, why isn't he complaining about Mercedes or BMW's naming convention for their cars? If anything if you ask someone what type of car they have like this, they say I have a Lincoln, Audi, etc....not a Lincoln MKS or Audi A4 or whatever...

If the CV was making that much of a profit, there would be upgrades done to it, but also consider this...the ONLY reason the Panther Platform makes money is that all the tooling etc has been long paid for (much like the Ranger) and spending a couple billion dollars on a new platform or making whole sale changes to it would destroy that profit. The only reason the Ranger is getting redesigned is that the platform will be used around the world, spreading the costs out. The Panther doesn't have that option. Its more or less your damned if you and damned if you don't. Another reason for Mullay's comments come from Ford being far too dependent on F-series and Explorer sales like they where in the past and the excuse of Small cars can't make a profit in USA thats been prepertated by Detroit since Small Cars have came out. All platforms have to carry their weight and make money. The days of designing a car to sell 400K units a year then cheapening them up/rental fleeting them out to make the numbers are done for. They have to figure out to make $$$ on a platform that sells about 100-200K units a year...which leads us back to the Panther, which would be lucky to do those numbers on a new plaform. The Taurus gets a pass since its platform is shared with the MKS, Flex and the '11 Explorer, which puts the total D4 platform close to 300K or more units a year.

Because people expect them on any car...the price prob already has the rebate factored into it... Anyways, The way I want my SHO its right around $44110 or $500 more if I forgo the Performance package and get BLIS and reverse camera. Decisions Decisions :D I think either way A Plan is around 40K or so...I'm sure DeanH will chime in LOL

:boring: :boring: :rolleyes:

Whats the point if you dont make any money on it?

Outside of the Abrams Tank with its Gas Turbine, all Military vehicles use a Civilian based Diesel engine. Some off the Top of my Head: Humvee: GM Diesel (think it was the same Diesel from the 1980's that gave Diesel its bad name with US Consumer) but I think it might have been replaced in newer production Models of the Humvee HEMMT, M113A2/A3, Stryker and LAV families have Detroit Diesels in them Bradley: Cummings VT903T...I used to to steal the baby blue Cummings C off the valve covers when I saw one when I worked on them M900 Series 5 Tons: I think they had Detroit Diesels in them also or Cummings in them FMTV (cab over 2 1/2 and 5 Ton trucks) Family: No Clue

I was just thinking about this...maybe having Nassar as the CEO of Ford in the late 1990's was the best thing that happened to them in the light of current events? Ford pretty much went through the same thing that both GM and Chrysler are going through now, sans the Credit Crisis and having to go through bankruptcy. All the mismanagement of the 1990's lead to Ford bringing in Alan in 2005/6 and him cleaning house, which prob the biggest difference between what GM and Chrysler are currently doing. Basically, if Nassar didn't happen, Ford wouldn't be in the position it is now...which prob the best of the big 2.5 and quite possibly become the largest Domestic manufature in a couple years?

A coworker's brother has a previous gen 427R...I got a ride in it and its scary fast....you can get into alot of trouble with it :D

Seems like it didn't take that long, given how long it takes for an Ford engine to come out...hell the 3.5L was supposed to be out in 2005 or so and lets not talk about the Boss 6.2L :P I think the Scorpion is moving along quite well..plus when was the last time that Ford NA designed its own Diesel Engine? I can't even think of the last time Ford made its own Diesel for the US market.

When many of your products sell 50-70% of total sales to fleets, your not building cars that US People want to buy!

I'm sure they'll reverse engineer it much like the Halex AWD system that is still claimed to be used on Ford Products!

Of course it will considering it weighs 500lb or so less then the Camaro...

I was speaking about a Twin Turbo 5L

I even wonder if they can make it that far

I have to agree with you, a Twin Turbo V8 in a Mustang is a bit overkill unless they want to charge 60K for it or more. Would be neat, but also would could be stupid powerful for every day use...you'd be able to put out well over 700HP with some tuning...

Prob Not, just the EB 3.5L