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What about the Aura...same thing as an Opel and it was bolted to the parking lot.

I can see the S197 Platform lasting a long time. The interesting thing about it was that it was developed to be profitable at 100-120K units a year sales, but the Mustang sold much better then that all the way up to this past year. Maybe if we get IRS in 2014 or so, the platform could soldier on for another 10 years no sweat with updates...

Does anyone have a Escape Hybrid and really know what happens with this tax credit? How can you "buy" something that isn't even on the lots to buy at that time????

I wish, I'm stuck out in WI and my Mustang is getting its door fixed back home!

I think its Ford just covering their asses just in case they do need aid next year

If you have an order in before that date, you still get the discount, this is what my brother in law winded up doing.

some more reports...its fun to drive, but its def lacking the get up and go that the Edge has...basically it lacks torque even with the Turbo on the 2.5L With that being said, It eats gas pretty bad too...I'm at a half a tank with only a 157 miles I put on it... I wouldn't mind owning one,only if it got better MPG's though.

I don't want too...why should I work in a crappy work environment like a factory when I can do something else like work in an office and do less "physical" work and get paid more? Hell I just spent my whole afternoon driving around Fort McCoy checking to see if the computer network we have set up works properly all the way back to Fort Dix. It was great...70 degrees and sunny, though a bit dusty. And I work in one of those "office" jobs you complain about.

Nice to see that factory workers are just as ignorant as everyone else :rolleyes:

Good luck with that! LOL I agree that the numbers are often twisted around to suit whoever wants them to be

Well in the contracting white collar world, If your say making 30 bucks an hour with benefits at a job and you took a contract job, you'd be expected to be paid $60 bucks an hour, since you don't get those nice benefits (sometimes) as equal compensation Getting retirement and medical coverage isn't as cheap as you think it is

The problem is that if they do, they will lose even more jobs in the USA. Not everyone wants to work a manual labor factory job

Holy crap....I'm sorry it is the CX-7...thats what I get posting only after getting a couple hours sleep and spending the better part of the day traveling! What really confused me was that it didn't say Premium fuel recommended on the gauge cluster, which is why I thought it was a CX-9 with a 3.7L in it

Is it just me or is the new Explorer going to have a huge front end on it? I know its under lots of camo, but the front end of it looks huge and sorta related to the Edge

Well I finally got something other then a Sienna or Odyssey minivan to drive while traveling for work. I picked up a just about brand new Mazda CX-7 from the Hertz counter this afternoon. First impressions: The dash is much better executed then the Edge, which the CX-7 is based upon Seats are pretty decent, though they could be a tad softer...the leather is nice. Even has heated seats...which I miss from my SVT Focus. I was surprised at the suspension...it was rather firm..almost as tight at my old SVT Focus I had...it rode pretty decently though a little bumpy over rough roads I encountered out at Fort McCoy,WI Cargo room was pretty decent I guess...took 3 people's baggage with laptop bags easily. Drivers seat had no problem accommodating me at 6'2 and bout 210lbs...I didn't feel tight or anything in the seat. Performance was ok...I've driven an Edge a couple times before and they feel roughly the same performance wise, even though the CX-7 has the larger 3.7L V6 in it. I've put about 50 miles on it or so in about an hour and half worth of driving...I'll have it till next Tuesday and I'll update my feelings as I drive it more. So far I'm pleasantly suprised by it...its engaging to drive, though the suspension might be a tweaked a little too harsh for my expectations for a vechile like this.

But the Mini has much better background behind it then Fix it again Tony!

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Most Jets stay under 500 MPH anyways....I've never seen any NASA footage that showed that type of acceleration when the second stage kicked in...and I bet its more impressive in person too..

I got my copy of Popular Mechanaics in the mail today and nearly shit myself when I saw the first advert...a Ford ad for the '10 Mustang in Japanese claiming its drifting prowess...the car even had a Japanese plate on it! I remember reading that the Mustang won some drifting contest a while ago...but I'm just really surprised to see Ford pointing the Mustang at a younger generation that relates more with Japanese cars and the Fast and Furious crowd. The only english in the advert is Vaugn Gittin Jr. (guess he's the driver) and the2010mustang.com and "The 10 unleashed"

Press photos are going to make any interior great looking, hell just look at the 2005 Mustang GT with ICAP and IUP, Ford was claiming it was the best interior under 30K in a car! BTW I like mine, but the plastics could be better

Is that plastic or metal!??!!?!?!? Not to mention that White plastic is gonna look beige in about 2 years from body grim and whatnot

LOL We got enough crap in the Ocean out here already!

I wonder about the TC myself, but I only see a market of about 40-60K vehicles a year for it, with the vast majority of them being sold to fleet style operations. I don't see it doing much of anything in the personal use market, unlike some people around here

BULLSHIT! All those Honda and Toyota Minivans are rental fleet queens...when I travel for work, we ALWAYS get a Siennas and Odysseys as rentals to drive (I perfer the Odyssey to the Sienna, its a better driver) At least next week I'm supposed to an SUV instead of a Minivan

Thats pretty strange, most new Ford products use Ceramic style brake pads, I'm always surprised at how clean my Mustang wheels stay and I didn't know Ford ceramic brake pads till after I had the car a year and half