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Kapa O Pango Hakka: Kapa O Pango Hakka Versus South AFrica 2005 Traditional version: All Blacks Maori Haka

Wallace & Grommet..... Sorry, I copy/pasted the utube title - forgot to Americanize the date :shades:

Last weekend, I went to the Billy Joel concert in Brisbane Australia. I found this on youtube: Billy Joel Live in Brisbane 6.12.08 Part 3 Edit, This is the best MHLM thread ever!!!

The obvious replacement for the Panther BOF platform is the Falcon Unitary platform. Falcon/Territory by FoA makes for a compelling arguement as development costs already amortised. V8 and Turbo I-6 options are available but unlike the Pontiac G8, Falcon products are more centred around the I-6 version which is where the bulk of sales are now these days. Ford will need to fill niche markets, if they're smart they can back end onto existing FWD or RWD products and reap real cost savings benefits. At least Ford has several options, unlike GM or Chrysler....

Everything springs from immediate loans for cash flow, without that GM can do nothing.

Looking at the 2007 contracts and coming two tier wages, give ups in VEBA health and pensions, I'd say the UAW has been most forthcoming and positive in negotiating for the longevity of Detroit three.

OK Richard, Immediate steps GM has to take this very moment to survive and increase cash base just to get through to the end of Q1 2009, what do they do? Reduce excessive fleet sales? Cancel low or no profit product lines? Cut out useless factory incentives? Sell off rest of GMAC to Cerebus? Sell Saab? Sell Buick to SAIC?

How smart were Ford to do their own in-house CH 11 and negotiate their own future. Pity GM didn't take a leaf from their book, oh well it's all too late now........

By then it is too late for suppliers, they work on "Just on time" supply and payments Any Fed bail out would take too long and without continuing sales to stay in business, most suppliers would have to file Chapter 7 as well. Funding is not about saving GM, they're done for. It's all about allowing the supplier base time to move onto other contracts beforer GM winds up.

I see dog eat dog mentality is alive and well in the USA. I thought it was all about reaching out and giving the other guy a hand up out of the gutter. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

You still don't understand, there is no Chapter 11 option. If GM files, it will be Chapter 7 liquidation of assets and termination of all business. There is no Chapter 11 option because restructuring does not help immediate cash flow problems. All the Chapter 11 refinancing channels have dried up in the USA and ther is no funding apart from what the US government is proposing. Without that funding immediately, GM is gone - Kaput!!! You're seeing history about to happen.

Apparently this internet blog first surfaced in 2002 and was created by a guy who did searches and used the methodology that if he didn't find evidence of contributions, none were made. I think it's time we stopped muck raking in the name of the dead and lock this thread.

Ford, Lincoln and Mercury Sales By Type Cars: 40,854 CUVs: 22,552 SUVs: 9,102 Trucks and Vans: 56,613 Total Trucks: 88,267 12 Total Vehicles: 129,121 The interesting part is that Ford considers all non-cars as trucks but if you add car based CUVs to cars, the picture is a little different. Car and CUVs: 63,406 Trucks, vans & SUVs: 65,715

Jafo seems to think the inevitibility of GM and others going broke is reason enough not to fund but the funding is more about controlled downsizing or exit strategy for suppliers - Not GM, Chrysler or Ford. It is not feasible to give suppliers funding directly but you can support the companies above them. By doing that you enable innocent bystanders time to get out before they lose everything.

Mitt likes the sound of his own voice and pretends to be an insider by association (his dad). His Captain Obvious suggestions are full of uninformed criticisms based on zero access to financial working of the big three. The worst thing is we had to sift through this wind bag of an article to find nothing new.

Mustang fitted with the XR6 Turbo engine - a vision harboured by a few diehard Aussie Ford fans. This clip will give you a bit of a look under the Falcon's hood FG XR6 TURBO DYNO TUNED BY BTA MOTORSPORTS

Not sure what you mean but the Falcon is engineered to take the I-6 and the 5.4 4V engines. So by inference, the Falcon could be built with the Mustang V6 and V8 engines if Ford wanted to. A V6 Diesel is on the way for the Territory CUV and a Prototype 3.7 V6 Falcon was made recently. Now that the V6 Falcon that's not happening in Australia, it could be handed over to FNA to complete as a LHD for domestic production there - I hope is they will do something with it, easy engineering!!!

Seems the only problem with meeting Euro 4 ( presumably 5 and 6) was the cold start cycle. FoA had originally laid out what ws needed but thought it might have been very expensive:

Falcon V6 validation prototype was a 3.7 and Ford 6-speed auto - ZF is incompatible with V6. I guess some Ford exec will have a unique car......... Fitting the V6 and then changing their mind was all FoA's idea - Mulally and Kuzak played no part. FoA honestly thought the upgrade on the cold start cycle on the I-6 was going to be very expensive. Turns out the new cam phasers can work down at idle which really helps, slight changes to calibration and injection mapping does the rest. Aussie Government grant picks up the bulk of the cost - $21M. For those of you thinking direct injection is needed, FoA have ruled that one out - for now. Side entry DI like FNA uses is possible and feasible but until then, we'll make do with 360/400 hp turbo. Aussie I-6 has 290 lbft of torque available from 2500 rpm and punches all the way to 260 hp @6000, mid range torque is like a 4.6, and fuel economy is slightly better than GM HF V6 Commodore (G8)

Mulally is milling lumber and making houses

At the time in July 2007, FoA thought upgrading the Inline six to Euro IV would cost too much but with new technology, it only costs $21 million which is covered by an Australian Government grant, that was deactivated when Geelong Engine closure was announced. That grant is now reactivated. Although the engine has never been considered for F150, Mustang or Crown Victoria, it would make a superb addition both in naturally aspirated and Turbo versions.

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J/LR apparently lost lost $383 million in the first six months and since world sales have declined further, I'm sure J/LR are having a very close tussle with Volvo as to who can lose more money. Blueoval news, October 11, 2008: Tata Motors suffers Losses due to Jaguar, Land Rover purchase

Why are people trying to pick fights over IRS? It's not available in the Mustang anyway. As one who has experienced Ford's Control Blade IRS in a high performance Falcon some of you respectfully don't know what you're talking about.

Alan Mulally did not earn $28 million last year, that was for 2006 which included a sign on bonus and $11 million to replace his surrendered Boeing stock. I read that last year,he earned something like $2 million plus stock options.