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  1. I have not read much about Ford's charging network in the USA.
  2. Interesting - used the equivalent of 20 gallons of gasoline to travel the distance. 8 hrs of charging though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC95WACQhCY
  3. IMO both Ford and GM are kidding themselves if they think Millenials and Z-gens are going to be attracted to a Cadillac or a Lincoln.
  4. mlhm5

    Rivian R1T electric pickup

    Ford loves to tease with concepts that never make it into major production. I put this in the same class as the Mach1 EV. Beautiful but probably will be very limited production and miss the introduction date if there is one.
  5. Some of the biggest oil companies like BP, Total, Shell and Chevron have made major investments in EV charging by either partnering or buying the charging infrastructure because they believe the forecast that 60%of new car sales and 33% of the global car fleet are estimated to be electric by 2040. So discount that if you will but the investments have already been made. It is estimated that car manufacturers will invest $300 billion over the next 10 years in EVs. Pretty obvious from the comments on this thread many think Tesla will fail, and the stock will plummet. Maybe they will but Tesla will be bought out by a major player in the auto business for ~$30 billion prior to that happening. Think about this. Suppose Ford buys a 40-50% stake in Tesla (Ford is not cash rich) and takes over manufacturing, distribution, and sales, and all the other day to day tasks of running an auto business and all Musk has to do is focus on product innovation. Could happen, but Ford does not have a good history at managing acquired car companies (Volvo, Jaguar) and doing that is probably the last thing on their mind. Nevertheless, both Google and Apple have kicked the tires Tesla in the past and so have the Chinese, who are loaded with cash and might be the one that makes the first move. So either you believe Tesla will make and if you do not you have to guess which auto manufacturer buys them and becomes the WW leader in EVs and charging infrastructure.
  6. Big time means no range anxiety.
  7. Tesla has 10K superchargers WW, has promised to double the network by 2020 (we will see), and rolling out V3 which can charge your car at 1,000 miles per hour or 75 miles in 5 minutes.
  8. 5 years from today, Ford will be a bit or non-player in the USA EV market because their EV strategy is to hype EV plans that never materialize. I don't know who will dominate, but when you eliminate range anxiety, you stand a better chance to sell your EVs than your competition.
  9. My premise remains the same - Ford will be a bit or non-player in the EV market. Ford's CEO has not been straightforward about their future plans and even though not vocalized it is obvious Ford's future depends on the sale of gas guzzlers. Ford has a $50K pick-up, has exited the sedan mass market, cannot get beyond a concept EV car, and any cannibalization by an EV of their sales of ICE cars is OK because they are all money losers. Maybe paying lip service to EV plans that never come to fruition is a smart way to maintain good press relations and satisfy the loyal, however, 5 years from now the market value of Ford will depend on the price of oil. Even if Ford started now it would be six to eight years to come to market with anything somewhat comparable to what Tesla delivered in 2012 and this does not even address the nationwide supercharging network.
  10. IMO, you underestimate the drive of companies other than Ford especially European/China manufacturers to win the race to be the leader in EV. Today you can buy an EV with a 295-mile range, capable of charging at 1,000 miles per hour and is the safest car in America. Right now there are 400,000 fully electric buses in the world and 99% are not only in China but made there too. I think the USA has less than 2000. We should be the world leader but are not for a number of non-financial reasons.
  11. If you want to encourage adoption this is the way, unlike the US where the federal government is reducing and some states have completely eliminated or never had any incentives for EVs. I do not think that the fossil fuel industry wants any competition.
  12. The future is EV and Ford has partnered with several Euro car companies to bring really fast chargers online in Europe by the end of 2020 - 75 miles apart. So Ford is aware of the future of EVs, however, will get shut out in Europe because they will not have their first version of an EV until Fall of 2020 and according to Ford, it will be a performance-based SUV or crossover with a 300 mile range. Of course, this is all talk for now until someone does a review. Other than your garage, where will you charge this car? IMO, without a national rapid charging network, as being planned for Europe, it is just may be a teaser.
  13. Yes, but they are level 2 charging stations which charge around 25 miles per hour. Same as your home with a 240 volt charging source. Way to slow except for your home. The upgraded Tesla V3 superchargers can charge at 1,000 miles per hour or 75 miles in 5 minutes. The Ionity charger is faster but most of the European manufactured EVs are ready to be charged at high speed. - https://gadgets.ndtv.com/transportation/news/fastest-electric-car-chargers-are-waiting-for-batteries-to-catch-up-2019592
  14. Isn't that the future? I doubt it will take 20 years for EVs to gain overwhelming popularity if there are more car companies making them. I fully expect European adoption to be much faster.
  15. MB says the future is EV. Having a PHEV with a 34 mile battery range, IMO is just stupid. Solve the range anxiety issue through a network of superchargers and people will buy EVs. In Europe Ionity which is a partnership of several car companies including Ford plans to have supercharging stations 75 miles apart. - https://www.electrive.com/2019/03/21/ionity-so-far-63-in-operation-52-being-installed/