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I looked at the NYC Auto Show site and see that one of the press days is indeed on April 17th, as spudz64 said. Ford also likes to do standalone events, as rmc523 said. So I can see a scenario where they hold an event to discuss their product plans for the upcoming few model years. Maybe show a concept or sketchings. They could either show the Mach 4 at the end of that event or mention it with a teaser photo and say to wait for the NYC AS for the official reveal. Either way the NYC AS would allow the visitors to see the Mach 4 in person during public days. That is, if it will be revealed at/prior to the show.

That's probably a good thing that they're trying to get costs under control. Hopefully that includes quality control into the engineering. Do you know if it's a truly all-new platform architecture for the F-150/F-Series or just a thorough update still based on the 2015?

Agree with both of you. Once the Escape sales begin to substantially drop or is no longer profitable, it can be phased out with the introduction of the longer-wheelbase Bronco Sport with standard AWD/4WD. This keeps the Bronco sub-branding an off-road set of vehicles as well as fulfilling Farley's goal. I honestly think Ford should go ahead and at least introduce the longer Bronco Sport now as sales for those would surely take off. Offer a hybrid of it. I could see the 'Escape' name eventually be used on an upcoming CE1 skunkworks vehicles. I know there's talk of off-road SUV (some say should have some tie-in to the Bronco sub-branding which I agree with) and a pickup versions of the CE1, but I could see an Escape version of CE1 be for aero-styled longer-range vehicle. The CE1 products can be built at BOC alongside the eventual T3 and its derivatives. Speaking of C2 products (though I do not intend to throw this thread off-topic), I also think the new Lincoln Nautilus needs to be built alongside the current Escape/Corsair at Louisville Assembly Plant. While at it, build a Ford version of it and call it Edge. Not much would need to be done except changes to styling and packaging to the Nautilus. Think of it as Fordifying the new Nautilus to make a new Edge. Also build the new Ford Evos as well but call it Ford Fusion. This keeps LAP going with production of other ICE C2 products, except for Maverick and Bronco Sport, after the eventual end of ICE Escape/Corsair.

Impressive Q4 and 2024 sales, especially for Lincoln. I'm not too overly concerned about the recent December sales compared to 2023. So many factors and circumstances to make it alarming. I'm just glad to see Lincoln is doing well as well as many other Fords. I'm hoping and sure 2025 will add on to the success of 2024. I do think the 'CE1' skunkworks products may be revealed at some point this year, though possibly in concept form. Speaking of which, I wonder about this coming Detroit Auto Show. Seeing how some of us are talking about potential future Ford products coming in the next few years, has anyone heard whether Ford plans on revealing anything this Friday in Detroit? I'm guessing not since they haven't done any social media tease about it lately. I can't find an actual schedule on the Detroit Auto Show website other than the general 'media day' on Friday from 9am-1pm.

I like it. Looks sharp!! Love the all-new interior with full-width dash screen. How can anyone not like the standard 28-speaker Revel 3D sound system? 😮 I also like the optional 24" wheels too. I'm sure the hybrid version is coming soon, likely sometime after initial production kicks off to make sure quality is up to par. But I'm excited about this update/redesign, though.

That actually looks good. Hopefully it's legit. This appears to be the graphic as seen on the Ford site's Build & Price configurator. Reveal coming soon?

If Lincoln actually had to put that in the document, then you know someone out there actually tried using their Corsair to snow plow. 🤣

They could have done this on purpose to generate hype to get people talking about it. It's working since we're both talking about it. lol It's said to be a 2025 model year so yeah the teaser would have been more of an actual design rather than a generic look. Is it me or does the roof seem taller and more curvier than the current S650?

I really like the 60th Anniversary Edition package! I would love to have the white convertible with manual transmission. The livestream was a bit of a snorefest though. Some of the audience members looked bored and some could be seen texting away on their phones. lol However, I also like the new GT3 livery. I had not heard of Lyn St. James until today and liked her 1987 Roush Mustang she raced that they showed images of. I thought she was the most interesting of the bunch to listen to as she talked about the old racing days and how it's paving the way for the future. The teaser image at the end looked as if it was AI-generated rather than a clay model under the tarp. Shelby American is doing their own reveal tomorrow of their S650 variant. Ford and Shelby American have done their own Shelby Mustangs concurrently so it could be a new Ford in-house Shelby S650 that the teaser is showing. Maybe it's a performance-tuned Mustang Hybrid. This could be that other model that is to go to Flat Rock pending approval, as specified in that UAW contract agreement. Edited to add: I originally wrote this before you edited your post to include the image of the teaser.

How ironic regarding the BEV redundancies compared to possible success to skunkworks team considering Ford had just reduced the ICE engineering workforce due to redundancies. lol But I've seen where Doug Field, having been involved with skunkworks team and T3 project, will bring over much of skunkworks onto the T3. It's a good thing because whatever the skunkworks have figured out to keep costs low and selling price low could be applied to the T3. Perhaps that's one reason why the T3 was delayed by one year. Apparently it won't be called 'F-150 Lightning' either, according to CFO Lawler. Perhaps the 'F-150 Thunder' name will be used as that was trademarked some time ago. Hopefully the skunkworks methods can soon be applied to the current generation BEVs as part of updates/refresh if it's possible. This would include the Mustang Mach-E (keeping with this thread topic), F-150 Lightning, and E-Transit. https://fordauthority.com/2024/04/next-gen-ford-f-150-ev-will-benefit-from-low-cost-platform/

What is BOD review? It's a shame that the U760 'Star' may have been shelved as I liked the concept of it. Also, not to take this off topic, but do you know what Ford has planned for the 60th anniversary event on the 17th? Any particular packages/trims reveal or is it just a celebration and then the '60th Anniversary' GT package, as expected? Thanks. It really is a shame that Mulally didn't approve the global rear drive platform for the vehicles you mentioned. This would have fit his One Ford vision he set out to do. Looking back, it's also easier to say that Ford should have redesigned the 2020 Explorer onto the C2 platform, along with the Edge/Nautilus at some point. The Evos (likely with a different name for America) would be great addition here too. By now, these C2 vehicles could each have hybrids too.

So how can we view the livestream in just a few minutes??

I didn't even think about this possibility. We may know within six hours from now. Maybe not all the details of the vehicle until actual reveal but enough to know what will be shown. Edited to add: Sometimes embargo gets lifted later in the morning around 6am or so. So we may wait longer. I'm still looking for livestreaming link and surprised Ford hasn't said anything about this on their social media sites.

They could be revealing a 60th anniversary model of the Mustang tomorrow or something else. I'm now thinking the 60th anniversary exhibit display at the NYIAS is to basically kickstart the celebration by having it at there for the show's attendees. I took another look at the photos in the link below. Most Mustangs shown in photos appear to be owned by various enthusiasts and not owned by Ford. It's possible that this exhibit is something NYIAS organized and the enthusiasts submitted their cars to be shown there. I attended the Louisville Auto Show in Kentucky back in 2020 and there were some various cars displayed there by local enthusiasts (in addition to some new vehicles displayed by few manufacturers and local dealers). So this Mustang exhibit at NYIAS would be separate from Ford's own traveling exhibit that was announced yesterday. https://autoshowny.com/exhibitions/mustang/ Bob Rosadini previously mentioned the possibility of new color choices of the Ford Transit to be revealed tomorrow. He's right that Ford didn't reveal anything at the recent Work Truck Show. However, Ford did release a press announcement about the Transit during the WTS which is also on the WTS website. It was both a 10-year celebration of the Transit's success and about the upgrades and enhancements to the E-Transit. They would have mentioned new color choices in the press release but they didn't. https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2024/03/05/ford-pro-marks-10-years-of-u-s--transit-by-bolstering-e-transit-.html https://www.worktruckweek.com/WTS/WTW24-press-conferences/Ford-Pro-celebrates-10th-Anniversary-Transit-van-America-upgrades-E-Transit-WTW24.aspx Yes, I'm now thinking this could very well be the case. Ford's reveal slot is only 20 minutes so that's plenty of time to do some drum-up talks, reveal, and discuss features of it.

Who knows what it is, but could it simply be the start of the Mustang's 60th anniversary celebration? Going to the Visit tab and selecting Daily Schedule in its drop-down menu brings the schedule of the public show. You'll see Ford Mustang's 60th Anniversary Exhibit that will be held at Level 1. Clicking on that takes you to the page about the Mustang's 60th anniversary where many vehicles over the decades will be parked there for viewing as part of the anniversary celebration. Seems odd that they would do this if they wouldn't reveal some kind of 60th anniversary edition model or some other surprises at the show prior to the public viewing of the old Mustangs. Logically, April 17th standalone event would have made sense for 60th anniversary model reveal. Maybe it's start of the celebration to build hype until April 17th which is on Wednesday. https://www.autoshowny.com/events-calendar/ https://autoshowny.com/exhibitions/8009/