Shipwright

Take it to court and let the lawyers sort it out. :banmolest:

Please, the less said about the KITT Mustang the better. They should have made that piece of crap with a GM product like the original.

The real question is where these cars purchased by actual paying customers or just sitting in GM dealerships collecting dust?

Or the hardware store and get a leaf blower to "supercharge the engine".

First Saab. Next, Opel/Vauxhall/Saturn? GM is truly unravelling before our eyes.

I believe production of the GT500 ceases in January or February with no official announcement of a replacement from Ford. If your basing your purchasing decision on power/handling/mileage then lets wait and compare actual production cars to get definitive data instead of bench racing. As a side note, I happen to like the look of the new Camaro and think the convertible version (pray GM makes it) will be very attractive, I just have a hard time with the interior. (disclaimer) I own an 08 Grabber Orange GT500 Vert.

I may be mistaken by I sincerely believe that the Shelby has a T6060 (slightly modified version of the Dodge Viper Tranny). The previous generation Cobras where fitted with the T56. If I am wrong please feel free to point it out to me. As for the specs, let's remember that the current Mustang is in it's 5th year of production, the Shelby is in it's third and all are due for a mid life upddate. In other words instead of comparing real cars (Mustang/ Shelby's) vs pre-production versions of cars due to be built sometime next year, let's do a head to head comparison with production Camaro's with the next iteration of production Mustang/Shelby/whatever S/E that Ford produces. It's a good time to be a muscle car fan.

Toyota will soon learn that it sucks to be #1. Being the largest manufacturer with massive profits paints a huge target on their backside that every lawyer in the country is just dying to hit. Just ask GM or FORD.

No, you guy's got it all wrong. This is Toyota's new dump truck option.

It's funny that a lot of people (GM and Mopar fans) are giving Ford a hard time for cheapening out by putting a SLA in the back of the Mustang. But here we have Chryco going to the expense of putting an IRS in the Callenger but neglecting to give it a limited slip differential. Talk about penny pinching. Denis

I wonder if Saturn is going to come out with a Sky version.

I have never paid above MSRP. Not even for my Shelby (it took a full year of haggling) and I would certainly not entertain any idea of an AMV on a Ranger, what kind drugs is the dealership on.

I echo your opinion, I'm 45 and my first card was a 75? Pontiac Ventura II, an automatic V8 with terrible brakes, nebulous steering and minimal road feel, which was eventually totaled by my sister (no injuries). My second car was a Chev Monza 2+2, 4 speed stick with a transplanted Chevelle 350 V8, again a not very safe vehicle by anyones definition (talk about brake fade and understeer), oh I forgot, it was also standard steering and had an undersized steering wheel, again totaled by sister (bumps and bruises). Third car was a brand new 88 Mustang GT, drum brakes in back, heavy nose, going around corners at speed and hitting a pot hole definately had a pucker factor attached to it. I had that car for 15 years before it was stolen never to be seen again. My other vehicles include a 90 Mazda B2200 5 speed manual (totaled by wife in 2000), a 1999 Mazda Protege 1.6L 5 speed (wifes), 2003 Mazda B3000 5 speed (mine) and finally a 2008 SHELBY GT 500 Convertible (ours). My point is that in all my purchasing decisions I bought what I wanted or needed. I don't really care about safety features, to me they are secondary or tertiary features. I don't base my purchases on fear or paranoia but on what suits my needs and desires. If we are going to make our car buying decisions on what is the safest car available then we may as well go for totally automated systems and let computers wheel us to our cubicles.

I believe the term your looking for is "rationalization"

1988 Mustang GT (stolen in 2003), first new car and first Ford. That car definately saved my soul and turned me from the dark side (GM).

I also own a ranger, well actually a Mazda B-3000, which I beleive is rated as a 1/4 ton truck. I had 15 bags of ready mix with an additional 180 lbs of sad in the back and it didn't sag near as bad as this so called 1/2 ton truck.

3 vehicles 1999 Mazda Protege 1.6L 5 speed (wife's) 2001 Mazda B-3000 5 speed (mine) 2008 Shelby GT500 Vert. (our toy).