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Yes, registration (in some states) is less expensive for the lower GVWR I believe (maybe insurance purposes too), but you can also spec out an F350 with the lower GVWR. It's nothing but a piece of paper. Here in MO, what matters is the weight limit on your license plate. My F350 is licensed for 24k lbs. GCWR, and that's what I pay registration on.

I like that idea, though a concern with be with parts sharing. Right now the F150 and Super Duty share cabs. That would be a necessity to keep the profit levels high. I've always wondered what the point of the F250 was. It's essentially the same truck as the F350, but with a lower GVWR.

Didn't Tesla end that a while back?

Surprisingly, there are a lot of Tesla drivers that don't have a way to charge at home or work and always charge at Tesla stations.

Good point, but a $100k GT 500 is much closer for people than a GTD that only has a couple thousand produced and you have to be approved by Ford to purchase.

To me, yes, the GTD is exciting, but something I can afford and have the option to put in my stable is MUCH more exciting than something I can just watch videos of. Kinda like women...I'd rather be married to a 7 than watch a 10 on TV. 🤣

Why? The GTD is essentially unobtainable. A GT500/Cobra/whatever should be more available. Not at GT levels, but much more reasonable than the GTD.

You really don't understand how a business works, do you?

Listening to that interview with Jim, he sounds like such a down to earth guy and he really truly loves cars.

The 2008-2010 Super Duty pickups had vents to extract heat from under the hood.

It looks pretty good. 249 miles with a 65.2kWh battery is impressive. Too bad their naming sucks. I mean, can't you come up with something better than ID.ERA 9X?

Agreed, but if it was easy, I'm sure Ford would have done it since there were apparently pics of it in place at one point. Ford must have information that points to the juice not being worth the squeeze. I mean, how many gasser with air brakes would they sell? It would likely be an extremely low take rate.

@Bob Rosadini is gonna be pissed...again! 😄

@ice-capades posted the order guide:

Ahhh, didn't realize the LCF went to class 7.

Ford is currently the ONLY automaker to have offerings in class 1-7, so they are the only ones serving that entire market. So, let's say it's a mistake to not prioritize classes 6 & 7. Let's make an assumption that they could invest $100M into those classes and get a return of $150M. Or, they could pick option 2 and invest $100M into classes 2-5 and get a return of $250M. Which is the better option? What would you choose?

And finding the old ones now and understanding those issues helps to eliminate the same problems with new models going forward and helps to learn from their mistakes. At least in theory.

Ummm, yes it is! Ever heard of GVWR and how that affects how much you can haul/tow with your truck? Weight is VERY important in pickup trucks! Why do you think Ford put all the money and effort into switching to Al if weight isn't as issue.

Just a little napkin math, a 200 HP engine (which is about what the Ford 3.3L makes at peak torque of 4000 RPM) makes about 149,000 Watts of power. So, assuming lossless charging, which I know is not the case, you could add about 75kWh to a battery in 30 minutes. Now, I know there are lots of things at play here and this is more of an ideal calculation, but if you cut everything in half, you add 75kWh to a battery in 60 minutes. In our Mach E, we can drive over 200 miles on 75kWh.

And charging time. If the battery is big, it takes a long time to charge it. That's fine for shorter trips or when you aren't towing, but when towing and eating up lots of electrons, it can be a pain.

I don't think they will release it if it doesn't. Thor/Harbinger is releasing an EREV class A RV. It's speed is limited to 50 MPH after the battery is depleted. However, it's only using a small 4 cylinder (I don't remember the displacement) as the generator for the battery. I expect better from Ford.

The F150 and Super Duty share the same cab, doors, and much of the interior. They aren't completely separate, though everything below the body as well as the drivetrains are completely different.

And that's probably the use case for 75% of F150 drivers.

Yep, I'm in the 70-75% of rated capacity camp. My Super Duty is rated at 21k or something like that. If I had more than 15k behind it regularly, I would move up to a dually. Our fifth wheel is 11k lbs. empty (probably 12k loaded) and no way would I tow that behind an F150.

11k lbs needs a Super Duty, no matter what Ford says the tow rating is for an F150.