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In other words - they hired the THX engineers to help engineer the vehicle and the system and not just to test and certify the equipment. Apples and oranges.

You're not listening. They're not just certifying the EQUIPMENT - it's an engineering process that just happens to come with a THX certification. If all they were doing was marking the equipment as THX certified I would agree but they're not. And they do change the vehicle to produce better sound in some cases if they can't tune around it. It was done for the Lincoln LS years ago when the Lincoln THX system first debuted.

No it's not. For Lincoln it means they tune the system to the vehicle and in some cases modify the vehicle for better sound. It's engineering not marketing. I'm not saying it's the best but it's not a marketing label.

This should be the best Cadillac since the XLR.

Some non-EB engines can take advantage of premium (latest 3.5L and maybe the 3.7L IIRC).

Nope. The first time they put a 3.5EB in the Taurus it broke the subframe. It had to be strengthend to handle the torque.

If your squeaky breaks then it must be time for a new squeaky.

You might see a 1-2 mpg improvement but you'd have to use premium which would probably be a net loss. And that's not guaranteed - it may not improve mpg at all. And it's only going to improve power a little - maybe 10-15 hp on premium fuel.

Phones used to be analog with wires and a dial. Now we have wireless smartphones.

The 3.7 is based on the 3.5 which comes with DI in Ecoboost form. And I'm pretty sure it's a Ford engine as opposed to the 2.5L which was a Mazda design.

Regular trans with torque converter. The dual clutch is only on the Focus and Fiesta AFAIK.

Go drive the MKZ 2.0EB for comparison. They use thicker glass, more insulation and in some cases noise cancellation. It should be much quieter but as jpd80 says it's perfectly normal for DI engines.

I have the Clarion system in my wife's Edge and MFT in my daughter's Focus and my Fusion. I'll take MFT every day of the week.

I tried one tank of 93 octane premium and did not notice much of a difference.

Ford wasn't trying to "get away" with anything. They changed a part and didn't do full regression testing. Simple mistake.

I see they got the corporate memo.............

I moderate the Edge forum and I belong to many other forums. Of course there are off topic posts including politics but not anywhere close to this quantity and magnitude of topics and posts. This is what an off topic forum should look like: http://www.fordedgeforum.com/forum/22-lounge-off-topic/ And you can't easily ignore them when 15 of the 20 topics on the first page were started by FMC or Langdad.

Where did I say they were to blame for Ford's problems? I don't think most people intentionally lie about their experiences but it's human nature to downplay problems on a vehicle you like just as it's human nature to bitch endlessly and loudly about a vehicle you don't like (or company). Let's say a person has their car in for service and the service manager sees a problem that needs to be fixed and fixes it during the service. One person may report that as a problem and another may not. Some people will overlook a small problem while others make a mountain out of a molehill. And subconsciously you know that some people want their brand to do well so they might lean towards not reporting certain things. What would be statistically more accurate? A more random sample including non-CR subscribers.

Because this is an AUTOMOTIVE FORUM where most people come to discuss AUTOMOBILES and the Automotive Industry. You and FMC (mainly) never contribute anything to the forum even remotely related to Automobiles. Your only reason for being here is to create political threads and engage in endless political debate. The same debate over and over and over. In multiple threads. This is not your personal playpen. If I was the moderator I would have kicked both of you out long ago. You add absolutely nothing of value to this site and certainly nothing automotive related.

That doesn't mean everyone else is being honest, and only surveying subscribers is not a good statistical sample.

I say we create one thread where FMC, Langdad and the others can go debate and argue with each other over whatever is the current political issue. That way when someone else who actually comes to this site for automotive stuff can have an off topic discussion about other things without having to sort through page after page of stupid threads about the same old stupid stuff over and over and over. Or better yet - create a separate forum just for political issues and leave this one for non political off topic discussion. I don't understand why some people think this is their personal playground for political debate.

My daughter's Focus has MFT and I've never made a single visit to the dealer in almost 18 months. I've updated the software myself twice and had to force a restart twice in 18 months. My Fusion is 3 months old and nary a problem with MFT.

I'm guessing the patch was in the IDS software to allow the dealer to access that feature in the BCM or it's new firmware for the BCM or both. Hard to tell.

Sport - Normal - Comfort is ride control and has nothing to do with adaptive cruise.

Ding! Ding! Ding!