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As its going up bump down on the top edge of the glass with your palm and see if it doesn't reverse. Im glad Ford makes that module no as sensitive as others. Due to the fact over the years the window run and regulators will become dirty and have some wear on it possibly increasing resistance. The mustang convertibles seem more sensitive. If the quarter window is not perfectly inline the front glass will bounce back. In a way I wish Ford had auto up and down on all windows, but in a way I am glad they dont. That feature uses a motor intergrated module which can and have failed making repairs higher than a standard module. Window regulators for alot of vehicles are expensive enough not including the motors.

I wonder what will happen to the Limousine business.... I drove a limo part time for a while. I enjoyed it and most of the veteran limo drivers prefered the TC to the deville 4 to 1. The guys I talked to said that the TC was alot more dependable and got alot of miles before major work. Plus, I always thought the TC looked much better as a limo than a Deville. I have seen a few 300c limos and ofcourse suv limos are big. I wonder if a stretched MKS would hold up and/or look good?

Actually the Flex does have a bounce back feature. All fords with auto up have it. Bounce-Back The LH front window motor has a bounce-back feature. If an obstacle has been detected in the window opening as the window glass is moving upward, the window motor will automatically reverse direction and move the glass toward the bounce-back position (in both up and one-touch up modes). If an obstruction occurs between 4 mm (0.15 in) and 200 mm (7.87 in) of window opening, the bounce-back position will be 250 mm (9.84 in) of window opening. If an obstruction occurs at a position greater than 200 mm (7.87 in) of window opening, the bounce-back position will be 50 mm (1.96 in) below where the obstruction occurred

I would just like ford to produce something like the Vette and Viper. Something different. I know the GT500 is awesome and the performance numbers are there, but it is still a mustang to alot of people that don't know better. I never have been a huge mustang fan. However, the 2010 is my favorite yet and I could possibly own one. I don't care if it shares powertrain, just make it look like a halo car. Like the Shelby Cobra concept. The GT was expensive, but its a super car and a bargin by comparason to other supercars. Maybe a hardtop convertible roadster. Obviously, after they get themselves back into the black.

I was wondering if and when Ford truns the boat around and starts becoming profitable will they bring back a halo car like the Ford GT? That is one awesome car. Especially for the money. What do you all think?

That article is absolutely the dumbest and largest waste of time and bandwith I have ever see. What do they think? That people purchase Big trucks to get good gas mileage? Or that the rich purchase high end vehicles because they was cheap transportation. The trucks are for working. The others are status vehicles. Give me a break.

I agree that Ford should offer some assistance. However, we don't know the entire story. Ford After warranty assistance has changed recently. Dealers are alloted so much money per quarter. That money is to be used for such instances. It is at the dealers choice what to do with that money. If a customer comes in and has never been at that dealer for anything other than warranty work, then what incentive does the dealer have to exhaust its quartely allowance on said customer? I am not saying its right... I am just stating a fact. The older AWA system was different. You didn't exaclty have a set amount you could use. That is why I try and tell people to do your maintenance with one dealer and set up a "relationship" for this kind of reason. Again, I am not saying I agree with the system, its just the way it is.

To an extent I agree. However, if you think other manufacturers don't have these kind of problems, you are mistaken. I personaly have repaired other vehicles with blown out plugs, one a chrysler and one a subaru. BTW the 3V plug issue is supposed to be corrected by 08. At first the plugs were a issue. Now not so much. Everything has a procedure. Follow the procedure and it works alot better. Ofcourse you will have that one vehicle that eats your lunch, but overall its not a big deal anymore. I agree that it would have been better to fix this issue during development. As far as the blown out plug issues, I think its all relative. Compare how many 5.4s are out there and compare the ones with no issues to the ones with. I am sure its a very small percentage. Most of the ones I have seen are due to plugs that have never been changed or ones that someone changed but not tightened. Overall since I've been at Ford, I have only really seen a handful. One example I can give you as far as issues you never really hear about, is in the 90s BMW 7 series would come off the truck leaking oil. The front cover gasket would migrate during assembly and leak from day one. Plus, those cars had enough recalls to keep a skilled BMW tech busy all day on one car. It just so happens, Fords issue is spark plugs, so its something that should be simple turned into difficult. Edit: I forgot to mention GMs Northstar engine with threads pulling out the block causing headgasket failures. I actually thought that engine was a good engine, with the exception of drinking oil. Ford isn't the only one with stupid designs and manufacturing defects.

I am curious as to what failed also. The 2.3 engine in your hybrid is no different than a ranger or focus except cams. The 2.3 has been a good trouble free motor. One reason I tell people to take your vehicle to dealer for oil changes and ofcourse your warranty work, is because they are more likely to assist you in such a incident. I would be interested in finding out what failed.

Have you had a diagnosis done? The reason I ask, is because that system does not use a tempature blend door. It uses coolant flow to adjust the tempature. You could just have either a Evap discharge temp senor failure or a possibly a incar temp sensor failure. Both are cheaper than a control head. You can run self test on it your self. Press Floor and off at the same time. Release and imediately press auto. Then the system will do a test and count down and the fan speed indicator will go up and down. After about 10- 20 sec it will flash a code. IE 21 95 or something like 13 15. After the code is displayed, you can press front defrost to clear codes and system will recalibrate. Run it and let me know what you got.

You're right TFI modules were not all the reliable. ALot of time I found when people replaced them, they did not apply diaelectric grease to the back of it which help transfer heat away from the module causing premature failure. Either way, I don't think GMs HEI ignition module that was inside the distributor was any more reliable. Dad had a old 85 chevy 1500. He did keep a ignition module and a screw drive in the glovebox. We replaced it 3 times in 6 years. Boy has automotive electronics come a long way since then.....

BTW why do you need a control head? Whats it doing?

Gm Used TBI forever.... My mom had a 85 Cadillac Fleetwood coupe FWD. With the HT4100..... HT was supposed to stand for High Tech, It really stood for High Trouble. It used TBI also. If Im not mistaken, her 91 Fleetwood used TBI but it had a better 4.9 I think a Olds engine. Even into the mid 90's they used TBI. As far as I know the only thing GM used Port injection on in the 80's was the Vette. I think GMs theory was if we use the HEI and TBI somethings going to fire...

Ok I guess I should do my homework before I post...... 2010 Taurus - 2009 Head Room - Front (in.) 39 - 39.6 Head Room - Rear (in.) 37.8 - 38.8 Leg Room - Front (in.) 41.9 - 41.3 Leg room - Rear (in.) 38.1 - 41.2 Hip Room - Front (in.) 56.3 - 53.7 Hip Room - Rear (in.) 55.8 53.6 Shoulder Room - Front (in.) 57.9 - 57.8 Shoulder Room - Rear (in.) 56.9 - 57.6 2009 Taurus Internal dimensions: front headroom (inches): 39.6, rear headroom (inches): 38.8, front hip room (inches): 53.7, rear hip room (inches): 53.6, front leg room (inches): 41.3, rear leg room (inches): 41.2, front shoulder room (inches): 57.8, rear shoulder room (inches): 57.6 interior volume (cu ft): 108.0

I havn't done any spec research yet, but has anyone else think the back seat seems to have less leg room than the 09 Taurus? I have only been in a preproduction 2010 model for a short time. I didn't have alot of time to check it out that well. But from what I saw in person and from the pictures I have seen on the net, the rear leg room looks cramped. I know that in the 500/taurus I could sit in the back seat without my knees touching the front seat no matter the front seat horizontial position. Since the platform is the same I wonder if its just the rear seat cushion is just longer to fit your legs better. A guy I work with thinks it looks cramped also. The Fusion looks like it has more rear seat leg room. The Taurus is a nice big car, I would think it would have tons of room. This was my only real concern with the Lincoln LS, the back seat leg room. I am 6'3 and alot of it is legs, so I hate to be cramped.

Oh man the first TBI. Toilet Bowl Injection. I vaguely remember those. Hummm. Lets take a carburetor and mount a injector on it and spray fuel down its throat. That will work....lol Wasn't as bad a varible venturi carbs.. As far as oil leaks, what car pre o-ring/silicone stlye gasket didn't leak. Cork gaskets would need to be replaced at least every 30k.

I understand your total frustration. I am still concerned as to why the same parts keep failing on your car. Eitherway, I always thought that the LS and T-bird would have been a bigger hit had the initial quality be as good as the Fusion has been. I think some of the problems stem from all that Jaguar "DNA" the car has. It is a very complex car. When the LS came out, it was like no other Ford we had to work on before. I remember the Ford Hotline being stumped on them alot also. We didn't know how to fix them in 1999. Their was a learning curve for them in the first couple of years. They were intimidating because of the complexity. But after some time working on them, I really like the LS. I wish it was still around. To me a updated, stretched version would have been awesome. If you like the T-bird, find a 05 and upgrade. The cooling fan is electric. It has 20 more HP. The ingition coils are covered under a warranty extension. Alot of issues seemed to have been ironed out. Plus the CD player is Satellite ready. Just a thought. BTW you are correct, that POS Honda was really a decent car for its caliber and year. The most high tech thing it has was a optional power antenna in the a-pillar. Just really can't compare to a vehicle that has a network of computers that control every function.

We can't keep Mariners and Escapes. As soon as they come off the truck they are gone. We have only one Fusion also.

Mine had to be hands down the 84 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 (little cherokee) with a 2.8 V6 Carburated and a Chrysler 3 speed auto. It was so slow and drank gas because the gas pedal was always to the floor to keep up with traffic and at 65mph it was screaming. Runner up was a 85 Honda Accord 5speed Carburated. But it was a racer compared to the jeep.

I understand your concerns and I don't like to comment about anyone's work without being involved. However, after looking at your list, I believe some of your issues are due to inadequate repairs. First of all, all those CD jams right in a row should have been covered by a 12/12 warranty if you had the radio replaced/repaired. All those engine temp issues sound like a possible inadequate diagnosis. The common issues I have seen on t-bird/LS 00-02 are: CD player Climate control water valve and aux water pump. Only a few climate control heads. (Very Few). Valve cover gaskets ignition coils leaking injectors. T-stat and cooling fan solenoid. Degas bottle (coolant Bottle) A couple of wheel bearings Solenoid body in trans. Ocasional a/c compressor leaking And ofcourse on LS window regulators Thats about all the things I have seen from the dew98 cars. On a ocasion I get weird off the wall problems. Most of these issues have been on LS. T-birds have less issues I think because they normaly aren't driven as much and there aren't as many around. Also most of these issues come from higher mileage. I hate you are having so many issues. But to be fair, compare a 02 Mercedes E class or a SLK/CLK convertible and see how much you would spend. Not a old POS lawnmower Honda Accord from the 80s. I had one, it was a dependable car because it was a covered lawnmower.

Ford is not the only one with huge keys/fobs. We have had a few used dodges and hondas. Their keys are huge also. I think if Ford insist on keeping a lock cylinder, Unlike the new Lincolns, then Ford may just need to use the switch blade key like VW. I saw on Ebay a while back some switch blade key and fob thats compatible with Fords. I may get one and try it on my Mariner hybrid. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/07-08-09-FO...sQ5fAccessories

Actually you can still get a seperate key and remote. Ford made it possible to program single key and remote to replace the one piece incase the customer did't want to pay $100.00 for a replacement intergrated key.

When I first saw the video, I thought the same thing; Why wouldn't they just sell that vette. But I figure by the 3rd brake lamp and the wheel style its probably a 86ish. I imagine the acrylic top is really missing/broke not just removed. Who knows it may have alot of problems. Also, the interiors never did hold up that well. But overall, most of those corvettes bring atleast $4500.00. I am thinking it must have been a piece. That reminds me of that Mythbusters episode where they took a C4 Vette in nice shape and let pigs decay in it to see if they could remove the smell later.

True, But I was thinking like in Demolition man with the foam filling the car.

If they were designed to wreck, then it would be able to do it over and over again. I agree that safety is very much into the structual design of a car. However, its intentions is not to be wrecked. Its only as a "if it happens the car gives up its life to save yours" scenario. If cars were meant to be wrecked, we would be strapped into 5 point harnesses with a no frills interior filled with enegry absorbing material surrounding you like a cocoon.