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Just wondering my ass, It's the only thing you cared about from day 1, try not to piss yourself when you get your greedy little hands on it!

Okay Scaredcountry, why don't you start your retirement now, your fear mongering is getting tiresome.

Why are you posting a story that is 4 years old? This is the post of a scared person, a company doushebag, or a really sad attempt by a union rep to spread fear. Sorry but you'll have to try harder, thanks for playing.

Curious to hear reasons for a no vote, what would make you change your mind and vote yes?

Wow you really told me, well at least everyone here knows what you are now.

Spoken like a true tier 2 person who only cares about himself, you have a lot of growing up to do!

I have them, a lot of people don't, sounding pretty selfish.

You do realize the Veba was company funded to right, if this co-op passes do you think the company is going to pump endless amount of dollars into it? like you said the retirees get what they get, you will too!! Why do you think IUAW brought this to the table? they have an ulterior motive and you can bet your ass it won't benefit you!

I know i am but i can't help myself. trying to save people from themselves is all i'm trying to do. Don't know why i feel obligated but i do.

Well you are right coach, but if you accept the first thing shoved in your face everytime you get what you get. i respect your opinion too, i just think its a crappy offer and i sure hope ours is better. i have been playing this game a long time and have known many people who always vote yes but are the first to start crying when they don't like something in the contract that they voted yes for. i always have 7 words for them, stfu you voted yes!

I would hope ours is a better offer, as far as name calling goes i didn't call him a name, i simply made a sugestion, put your big boy pants on and grow-up.

Just so we're clear, you're okay with screw the retirees, happy the new top wage for tier 2 doesn't bring them up to tier1 pay, happy the IUAW is trying to hi-jack your medical insurance, well i think it is a pos agreement and that's my opinion, just so we're clear. You should change your name to chassisprocesscoach.

I'm trying to figure out what the problem is that you think people are thumbing thier nose at, my tier 1 insurance is almost 8,000 below the current threshold of 27.500 its for me plus 2 soon to be plus one, that threshold # will be elavated in 2018 for inflation, if the price of my insurance were to go over the threshold it will be on my provider to pay the taxes, thus the whole reason for the Cadillac tax, to force them to keep it below the threshold. Might the IUAW punch you in the face, hope you have a strong chin! not a bleeder are you? Do you really believe they have your best interest at heart? my 30+ years is here to tell you sorry they don't, they are in buisness for themselves, you're an after thought! The co-op is a concession, tier 1 accepting tier 2 insurance is a laughable concession, Ford is going to make 10 billion dollars profit this year off of our labor, no more concessions for me, i already gave, time to take a stand or these jobs will become nothing but a bunch of temp workers chasing that carrot that the company will never let them have. 50/50 is a crap shoot! i'm tired of the crap! time to flush the toilet!! You are right about one thing we work with some highly retarted people, trust your gut but keep your face covered because if you let your guard down you wont see it coming, things are going to start to get interesting very soon! good luck to all of us, we're going to need it!

He thinks the FCA agreement is a good one, said he would vote yes for it, so yea a little out a touch.

Let the fear mongering begin, probably placed there by the IUAW.

Like i said, i can lead you there but i can't make you drink it,

http://www.uawtrust.org/Home/about/leadership/Committee/CommitteeBiographies/sb.cn

Listen, i'm not going to argue with you Caustic, One day you will realize these people do not have your best interest in mind. You know that old saying, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink, You just keep drinking the bullshit they're feeding you, one day you might get it! They think they are untouchable, they don't care about you! they are in it for themselves! you are nothing but 2 1/2 hours of pay to them. Hey, don't let a little thing like facts cloud your judgement of these crooks.

16 leeches stealing money that is supposed to be for retiree healthcare, i'm quite sure they all feel they earned and deserve it! They will do the same thing with co-op money if they can get their greedy fucking hands on it. How much work do you think they really did to earn that money? Nothing but a bunch of thieves but don't worry they have your best interest in mind!

Did you read this? https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/07/23/uawa-jul23-j23.html Jimmy Settles gets another 29,000 for being on BCBS board.

I like how all 4 of them are on the veba board padding their already fat wallets with an extra 30,000 a year. i'm sure they are salivating at the chance to appoint themselves to a co-op board if this shit passes.

Well you can call me full of it, believe it or not there are people that care, a lot of my friends have family that are tier 2 and you better believe they care what happens to them. There are selfish tier 1 people but there seems to be quite a few tier 2 people who are no better.

Try the employee locator forum, 2 below this one,.

"You may think whatever you want but until you read specifics you're just talking from your ass" Caustic, what are the specifics? i see 3 vague paragraphs on the co-op, please fill us all in with the facts. "Our health insurance will continue to be no cost with good coverage" everything has a cost! i can see that you are going to have find things out the hard way, The company and the union are in bed together and are out for themselves, You really need to stop thinking they care about you! they don't!

Hey, you can keep your doctor, LOL could those 3 paragraphs on the co-op be any more vague, FAIL!