I totally disagree that 8,000 new workers will not be needed in 5 years. You must consider we are at one of the lowest downturns history, production levels are at one of the lowest ever. Also some plants outside Michigan have temporary workers that are needed, but haven't been offically hired like KC, Minnesota and Chicago. 5 years is a long period of time and I expect that Ford does plan on increasing production at many plants along with introducing new products, and possibly continuing buyouts to drop labor costs, all of these will increase the likelyhood of Ford needing 8,000 additional workers. I would never vote to give up the cap on two-tier employees, it is playing with fire, if we do.