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I too, have been sent back. They are not using seniority to send people back, looks like they are picking and choosing who they are sending. Something is going on, I heard they were not going to tell us until Friday before we left, so no one would know they are keeping their buddies.

They have lots of people in Michigan that still need permanent jobs due to plants that have been reduced; therefore any plant that has people working at ACH plants temporarily will be getting postings. I would expect if they still have people that need jobs in Michigan that other Michigan plants will get postings as well.

I agree. I am also a light blue at Saline, but haven't had as issue with the union. Brandon has always answered any questions I have had and is a highly intelligent guy from my experience. If he does go to International, good for him, he will do an excellent job!! I think all those complaining just need to realize you are not in the same plant where you came from and each plant runs things differently, and change is difficult. I am grateful that I had the opportunity to come to Saline and absolutely love my job there.

Looks like it has been confirmed that this "rumor" is just that!!!! Postings are now up for LAP for skilled trades, and soon are coming production postings.

I am sure your international reps will be thanking you for wasting there time, when they get flooded with calls pertaining to this made up rumor. These people have a contract to negotiate and really don't have time for this crap. If your union brothers and sisters are on ILO and LAP has openings you should welcome them in.

I totally disagree that 8,000 new workers will not be needed in 5 years. You must consider we are at one of the lowest downturns history, production levels are at one of the lowest ever. Also some plants outside Michigan have temporary workers that are needed, but haven't been offically hired like KC, Minnesota and Chicago. 5 years is a long period of time and I expect that Ford does plan on increasing production at many plants along with introducing new products, and possibly continuing buyouts to drop labor costs, all of these will increase the likelyhood of Ford needing 8,000 additional workers. I would never vote to give up the cap on two-tier employees, it is playing with fire, if we do.

Not sure if you are up to date with what has taken place in Michigan, so here is the story. The union has done a great job making sure that everyone is working and not on ILO. In order to do this they have allowed people to bid to two parts plants, Saline and Sheldon Rd, as a temporary assignment until jobs become available for them, or until they are needed at their home plant. Not sure the exact number of people currently working at this temporary placement, but if I were to guess about 1000 to 1200. So most likely there is no one or very few people in Michigan on ILO, due to this.

I don't know where you get your info, but I work at Saline and over half the plant is on short work week. There are select areas that work overtime like F150 and Taurus areas, but that is not the majority of the plant. I wish I was working those kind of hours. It depends where you land in the plant as to if you will be working overtime or not. Therefore you would be surprised to how many people do what to go back to their home plants.

The Saline posting was put up for everyone to sign for whether they were working or on ILO, and senority was the determining factor. Some chose to sign and go, while others did not. To make those that signed and went come back to AAI to be laid off because others that did not sign now want those jobs is really unfair. It would be like someone at Dearborn with higher senority now saying they want to go and bump someone from their plant back, or someone saying oops I made wrong choice so now I want to take the bid to Dearborn that was offered in Dec of 2008, and bump someone with lower senority back to AAI, or someone who went to Sheldon now saying I would rather be in Saline. Everyone had the chance to bid for Saline and Sheldon, and now that a shift is cut at AAI, people are seeing they made wrong choice. That is life one must live with the choices you make. If anyone has rights to come into Saline and Sheldon, it is those that signed the postings and were never taken.

Hang in there, things will get better, and hopefully sooner than later.

There was paperwork posted, that we should claim $229.

When you call people names such as "dumb asses", you will not recieve any respect for your opinion. Show respect to get respect, it is that easy.

I don't know where you work , but it must not be Michigan because everyone knows that DTP will be the last one standing. It is already a museum, plus a factory.

I haven't heard much about the half day, but the start times will be changing to 6 am and 6pm, and the break times too, so I would hope that the lunch time would be after 5 hours.

Just wanted to check to see how many plants are laid off this week? I know that Dearborn Assembly, KCAP, AAI are, who else??

I agree with you about Cindy and Steve, but the Saline people really don't care about them, but Jon is right there with these too, in my opinion, and that is why he lost the last couple elections, he burned too many bridges at AAI.

I currently work at AAI, and would not recommend anyone voting for these two. Both lost last election and that is why they are at Saline, to try and start over where no one knows them. Jon can't be trusted and will stab anyone in the back, so be where. They lost for alot of reasons, so make sure you ask questions, there will be AAI people at Saline that will tell you the same. Good Luck Saline, Glad they are gone.

nicely said.

You do know at each meeting they are there to sell you this agreement. It is marketing!!! You should have done your own research, to know that Ford will not will go bankrupt in the next year, and they are trying to use Ford as a model for the other companies, but if I were the other companies, if this passes, I would expect at least twice the concessions since they are truly in trouble right now. I think you screwed your union bros at GM and Chrysler.

DTP is Ford's baby and they will be around long after KC is gone, no matter how great KC quality is. Closing plants in not based on quality, just ask Wixom, St. Louis, New Jersey.

I don't know why everyone cares what the public thinks about us so much, whether we pass this or not, they will not like us any more or less. Most of the public has no idea what they are talking about and feed off the press. This SUB deal is bad, the people who will be on the streets first have the least amount of time, and those who will still be working and will not need the SUB have the most. The IUAW have created another way to divide us as union brothers/sisters by not giving everyone equal amounts. In the past our brothers/sisters fought to get what we have, not to have it all thrown away. It is a sad day for the unions.

You really need to do your homework. I suggest you look up on Ford's company website and look at their annual reports. As of Dec 2008, they have $24 Billion, and they are going through alot of cash, but they are not going bankrupt anytime soon, at least not the next year, as which is not the case for the other 2 companies. We have lost close to 50,000 Ford-UAW workers since Dec 2005. We need to stand up and say no, not to say that maybe next year, if things don't impove that we will need to take concessions, but let's not give before we have to. Don't believe what you hear, until you do your homework.