The choice of power train in Panther has little to do with the overall weight of the vehicle....it needs a complete re-do to get the weight down. Plus, any replacement for Panther needs economy of scale type thinking to keep costs in line....my suggestion of the MKT chassis with a sedan body would bode well with "economy of scale" .....or, the next gen uni-body Explorer could spawn a sedan variant for such use.... :shades: