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Wouldn't the Wouldn't the Range Rover be worse than the Aviator as far as "issues" go? Their dual screen setup isn't garnering any praise for reliability or lack of issues.

This is what bugged me when I saw the lack of interior door handles. Correct me if I'm wrong but there's only one physical release and it's for the driver's door only, isn't it? The fact that they don't have physical release levers for all 3 other doors is annoying. The same kind of annoying that the passenger side mirror isn't auto-dimming.

The AWD system in the Bronco Sport is much more suited to the off-road mission than the second generation Escape ever was. If I wanted to replace my 2012 Subaru Forester XT with the current lineup of CUV's in 2020 or 2021, the Bronco Sport would be my first choice over the Jeep competitors. Unfortunately, Ford's AWD systems aren't my preference as I very much prefer symmetrical AWD from Subaru. Subaru no longer offers the same AWD systems found in their older vehicles (like my vehicle) but that's not a bad thing because it's doing wonders for their profit and market share. With that said, the amount of AWD systems in the CUV segment today that can AND allows the drivetrain to transfer power diagonally even on a steep incline is literally single digits these days. To me, that is the most important factor to consider when you even begin to think about buying an AWD-equipped CUV. Otherwise, for my needs, the drivetrain loss, MPG penalty, weight penalty, and maintenance that comes with an AWD that doesn't do what I need it to do isn't worth it. For other people, the above is never an issue let alone a consideration but I'm certainly glad Ford hasn't given up trying to compete with Jeep. I don't need to hear "most people don't need AWD" because need is not the only thing that has ever driven a buying decision in our country. There are so many people who assume that just because "I didn't get stuck today heading to work" or "my car never slips" automatically means the AWD system is the best. I certainly would not want them buying my next vehicle, let's just say that. I'm not trying to insult those who only think of their vehicles as appliances. There is not wrong with thinking your vehicle is the same as an appliance and anyone who says otherwise I would be wary of. However there are plenty of things to consider when you think about buying a CUV with AWD vs a CUV with FWD. I'm not talking about needs. I'm specifically referencing if the AWD system can do what you'll need it to do when you seriously need it. There's a difference between knowing how to use your AWD system and what your AWD system is physically capable of. Momentum can get you out of most situations which absolutely should NOT be confused with the actual capability of an AWD system. Ford has, in my opinion, proven they understand that difference as best they can in this CUV segment (and price range) with the Bronco Sport. Obviously I don't know everything about the AWD system but it is absolutely certain this is a Jeep Cherokee competitor in terms of AWD capability. Obviously the Cherokee has things the Bronco Sport doesn't but no one else comes close to competing with the Jeep Cherokee in the CUV/sub-CUV segment anymore these days and that is the important part to remember. Obviously if you go up the segment into mid-size crossovers, the Grand Cherokee has the 4Runner as competition. Some people will say that's not apples to apples because it's unibody vs body on frame but those people don't dictate what I can compare against one another. However, after Subaru dropped their 4EAT from their AWD systems, Jeep was the only one left standing in the CUV (or sub-CUV) segment that didn't require a manual transmission. Toyota and Honda have stepped up their AWD game in the RAV4 and CR-V in the current generations but both are no where near where Subaru used to be in terms of AWD capability. Ford unfortunately was never at that level in the CUV segment. That changes with the Bronco Sport. I'm not going to go out and buy a Bronco Sport because it's definitely lacking things I want in my next vehicle. However, it's nice that I have a backup plan now if I don't want to buy a 4Runner or Jeep Cherokee as a last resort.

Per all of the reviews that are more recent, that's not an issue for the USDM production versions.

Some of the reviews of the GV80 show the 3.5L is not as fast as that graph indicates. 6.2 seconds for 0-60 MPH from Alex on Autos. The 2.5L is even slower. Very disappointing. It's slower than the heavier, larger, and slightly more powerful Aviator (non GT).

BMW also underrates their engines so the numbers from any BMW should always be taken with a grain of salt.

That's great news! I guess I stopped waiting for the update to come along before they updated the site, lol. Now if only they could fix the quality issues and we could finally see SYNC 4 added. The Aviator is one of very, very few vehicles that checks 90% of my boxes in this day and age.

And ironically, the GV80 is the only one listed in that graph that does NOT come with an air suspension, optional or standard. "Competitive" is far too widely used as marketing BS to say "doesn't have all features as others." No matter how well they tune the suspension, if it can't get me through a freak blizzard storm because of lack of ground clearance, I don't want it. I'm more interested in if Ford made proper modifications to the 2021 model to account for the subpar ratings in the small overlap crash test the Aviator and the Explorer didn't do so well in. That and we need to see how the GV80 does in the IIHS crash tests and EuroNCAP AEB tests (since IIHS is too poor to do proper AEB tests). Either way, the GV80 currently isn't financially competitive to me personally. Both optioned up the way I want, the Aviator is only a couple thousand dollars more than the GV80 and that's even with the "Air Glyde" suspension on the Aviator. No air suspension on the GV80 is a deal breaker for me anyways. The lack of Genesis dealerships is a huge red flag regardless.

Maybe now we'll finally get more features on the rest of the lineup now that the unnecessary baggage has been dropped.

I'm curious what the dealer or Lincoln will try to do to fix the issue at this point. I'd be worried about techs trying to add a new door and screwing something else up in the process but that's just me. Not sure what I would do in that situation.

Wow, the no fault code would have triggered my inner tech persona right then and there. Just because there is no fault code doesn't mean nothing wrong happened. Systems and programs might not go down but that doesn't mean a system will 100% throw a fault code or error message every single time something goes wrong. It's called bad programming. Assuming code will ALWAYS work is hubris because none of us can predict the future. No system is perfect to the point where it can always throw a code to show "this hurts" or "something is wrong, fix me." It's not like Lincoln and Ford can foresee every single problem in order to generate an appropriate fault code. That right there is dealership BS to get you to avoid pushing further. It's to get customers to accept the system as half assed. If I had to program a fault code for every single mistake my code could make or all the possible ways a system could fail, I would never be able to deploy software in all eternity. I would have just said "why don't I take you on the drive and show you it's not working and then we'll see what fault code it's throwing then." The best way to prove them wrong is to have someone such as your spouse recording video of you using the system from start to finish and showing the system functioning (or not functioning in these circumstances). I know it's a bit more effort than most would like to put forward and a bit risky but most of us all have smartphones with cameras on them these days. Showing the lead car icon in the instrument cluster once adaptive cruise control has been set as well as when the system works AND doesn't work would be my first move. You have to prove it only works some of the time so it's better to show the system when it works AND when it doesn't work. You seem to be much more calmer with this situation than myself. Do you have any intentions on contacting Ford/Lincoln headquarters in regards to any of that?

I'm looking forward to hearing how that dealer visit goes especially regarding the lane assist and adaptive cruise control. And I agree; for $80k, these sort of issues and quality issues are not really excusable given the industry. I expect better from a brand that is trying to revive with a younger audience. Those rattles and that speaker quality issue should definitely be fixed by the dealer. I honestly would not be very happy at all if this was my first Lincoln experience regardless of if this was a first year model or not.