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Well that all depends. There are a lot of things the factory could do to improve the truck and for some reason they don't. Maybe crash testing, roll over etc. It makes no sense at all why they don't offer an air bag set up from the factory. You can't put any substantial load in the back with out messing up your headlights and with the LED's it is a big issue with on coming traffic. I was told the castor range on these trucks should be 3 to 4 degrees and ideally 3.5 degrees. If you correct the caster issue as part of the level/lift kit on a 20-22, it can start to get expensive. I would start with radius arms to correct the caster, then I would need springs, blocks for the rear, and new shocks. Or do you go with Deavers in the rear to eliminate the blocks, wheel hop and provide a better ride. If you put Deavers, then you need long travel air bags which are expensive and a custom setup. To do it right you are pushing $10K without wheels and tires. Now fox has come out with a electronic controlled shock package. If it works the way it should, it would be the cat's meow for those of us that use our trucks for towing and off road purposes. ?‍♂️

I find it interesting that this isn't discussed more. It is my understanding that the death wobble is caused by too little caster. So why aren't people just adding caster shims on stock height trucks to resolve the issue? Better yet, why doesn't Ford put more castor into the trucks. The dealerships are replacing the steering stabilizer when there is a death wobble issue ILO adding caster. What is the real reason for the death wobble? The tire pressure scenario is interesting and it made me realize something. My 2019 with 18" wheels and corresponding tires had a much bigger issue with the death wobble than my 2017 with 20" wheels and corresponding tires. I just assumed it was the model year that made the difference, but now my 2022 with 18" wheels has more of an issue than my 22 with 20" wheels. This has been one of my biggest issues in deciding whether to level or lift my 22 to the height of the 17 to 19 trucks and level the front. I feel like I need to start with resolving the caster issue first and for some reason know one seems to discuss.

I didn't get it for the fuel mileage, I'm just sharing information as requested by the OP. Yes it cost more, but so does a Super Duty over an F150. The high maintenance cost of a diesel isn't typically a factor until around 125K miles.

If you go with bags, I would recommend the 7" bags over the standard 5". They do the same work at a lower pressure so you get a lot better ride out of them.

6.7, 3.55, cc, LB, 4X4, 20" wheel and tire package. I was editing and adding more as you asked. Additional info was added while towing.

6.7, 3.55, cc, LB, 4X4, 20" wheel and tire package I just drove my truck, 6.7L, 866 miles, empty, except 3 passengers and luggage, across AZ. Highway, 2 lane, hills and traffic. I drove between 65 and 85, in the gas a lot passing and pulling hills. Dash says that I got 18.0 MPG. During most of the trip it registered 18.2 MPG. I was pretty surprised and happy to see that. Did it all on one tank of fuel and still have 91 miles to go until empty. A week and a half before, I got around 6 MPG pulling my 5th wheel, weighing around 17K pounds across AZ into CA, mostly freeway driving. I typically travel around 10 MPH over the speed limit. A front was pushing through and I was driving into strong headwinds, pushing me and all the big rigs around on the road. At one point in CA we were down to 20 MPH in blinding dust. It was that bad.

?‍♂️ I guess I got a little confused. Thanks for the clarity!

Has anyone received a PCO for a SuperDuty recently?

I hope you are right

"An eligible Partner Recognition employee or retiree may generate up to two (2) PINs per calendar year to be used towards the purchase/lease of a new vehicle for them or members of their households as noted below (see PIN Generation for details):" Do you know it the two PINS per calendar year is from the delivery date or the date the PIN was generated? Also, is the calendar year January thru December or (1) Calendar year from PIN generation or delivery date?

IMO the invoice is useful. The market conditions will determine how much under or over you will have to pay. With a little homework, you can discover the market temperature pretty quickly.

Yea, that's relevant!

I'm in construction and got the crap kicked out of me during the financial downturn. Client's didn't mind squeezing us for every last penny, because supply and demand were out of balance. I am technically in the service industry, not the commodity business, so it's a little different then vehicals. IMO these trucks are a commodity. For the most part, people ended up getting what they paid for by squeezing that hard. There was always someone willing to do it cheaper and deliver poor quality and service. We found our good client's and took care of them, but they still expected a deal. Things are different today, it's a lot easier to find good client's willing to pay a fair price for good work. No matter what market we are in, we charge what the market will bear for exceptional service and quality. Sometimes that pay is good, sometimes it's not so good. It's no different for any other business...gotta make hay when the grass is green.

I just took my 22 on a 900 mile road trip pulling a 5th wheel. It had a full DEF tank before hooking up and leaving. Dash said 4000k miles until empty. When I started the truck to warm up before leaving it went into high idle. I figured it was regenning since the truck had mostly been driven around town for the previous month or two. As soon as I got in and touched the brake to shift it dropped the idle. It did this a couple more times on the trip and on the way home the dash warning came on letting me know I had 500 miles until empty on the DEF. Something is not right and I plan to call the dealer to have it looked at. Maybe your situation is similar?

A payment under $1200 a month is a good deal. Actual cost doesn't matter in today's society???

Does that mean when things get tough and sales are slow that all consumers should be willing to pay MSRP?

Problem is these trucks need bags to keep it level with a load. I don't know why Ford doesn't offer it as an option. Even coming over a hill people think I have my high beams on. And yes...if I get flashed, I flash back! I hooked up my trailer tonight and almost took the daily driver, because it already has bags installed. I haven't bought bags for the other truck because I have not decided what exactly I want to do yet. The problem with a level kit or lift to get to the stance of a 2017 to 2019 really needs long travel bags and radius arms. It starts to get expensive quick if you want to do it right. Not Fox offers an electronic adjustable shock for road conditions or load. That just bumped up the price even more?‍♂️

?... I would point out that if you need to borrow money on the truck for those"unlimited opportunities" you don't have the security you think you have. The only guarantees are no debt and food in the pantry. Anything else you are gambling with your livelihood.

I would think that is an assembly line install, not out sourced, but maybe not. I am sure ford installs the 5th wheel prep before the bed is set in place. It can't take much labor, as it doesn't cost that much.

Doesn't really make sense for there to be availability thru parts but not for an order. Anyways...Better have a lift if you are going to attempt.

I have a loaded lariat or a trimmed down lariat that I might be willing to sell and reorder one if it makes sense for both of us. Both are 2022's with just less than 5000 miles on them. Since I have two I can be without one for a short period of time. DM me. I am in AZ 2022's F350 6.7 Lariat, 4X4 CC LB....

Does the 7.3 longbed not have the 48 gallon tank like the 6.7?

camera on my lariat is crystal clear unless it is a low light condition.

My Weather Tech mats from my 17 and 19 fit in the 22 with no issues. The rear mat depends on whether you have the storage option under the seat. I tried to remove the storage option in one of the trucks but there is holes in the carpet and studs spot welded to the floor to hold it in place.

I can't imagine how big the carbon footprint is from the emissions system and cost to maintain?...not to mention the reduced fuel mileage.