Anthony

Chances are that Hyundai will make just as much as Lincoln does with each sale (with the aforementioned cheaper parts and labor). Lower cost to produce can equate to a lesser sales price. Hyundai also does not have the added costs of having a separate storefront to sell these in a Lincoln does (ie, from Ford). Don't make the mistake of equating lower sales price with lower profit.

Kinda makes you wonder why all the other guys charge so much........... :shades: Artificial markup to enhance perceived status? Do these cars REALLY need to cost $40-$50-$60k? Or are they priced as such to give the buyer that perceived status of buying an "expensive" car? Does a Town Car really cost almost $20K more to build then a Grand Marquis? Think on that one.

Same pictures we saw sneak-peeked yesterday, now in HIGH-RES goodness. Click the pics for FULL-SIZED wallpapers.

No problem, his name is Sarcasm...and he was all over my post.

July will see the full model range. V6 / RT / SRT. No prices yet though.

If we are going to compare a 2008 Hyundai with a 1984 Hyundai....let me say, I had a 1991 Lincoln Continental that was by far the biggest piece of crap I ever owned. Everything went wrong with that car (and I maintained it like I do all my cars). No car before or after has lived up to its lack of quality. That being said, do I judge today's Lincoln by that car? No. Nor do I judge today's Hyundai by a 1984 Pony. I own a 2004 Hyundai Sonata with almost 70K miles on it. Still no problems and tight as a drum. Looks new inside and out. However. I think Hyundai has burst through what should be the price ceiling of their models. I agree that a new luxury brand should have been created with this vehicle being the first model. You can't have a product price range as diverse as Hyundai's and expect any type of cachet on the upper end models with a $12K vehicle being sold next to it.

Actually, they HAD to do it. With all the Mustang owners trading in their cars on the Challenger, they wanted to let them know it wasn't some fake plastic decorative gas cap. :hysterical:

Here the rest of the pamphlet..shows the entire car (full shot is the concept still): http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/2008DodgeChallengerDealer/

Production teaser shots From Jalopnik

Orders flood in for 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8® source: Chrysler Media Blog What has muscle cars fans squealing like teenage girls at a Hannah Montana concert? Try the all-new 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8®. Just in the first DAY of orders, more than 4,300 people plunked down a deposit for the American muscle coupe. And more than 6,000 have made deposits with dealers since orders opened on Monday, months before the limited-edition Challenger SRT8 goes into production. “This is unprecedented,” said Mark Mallie, Challenger Brand Manager – Dodge Marketing. “Customers were actually coming to us and pushing us, so we thought this was a good time to take pre-sale orders.” Orders are still coming in – long before enthusiasts have even seen the car. They’ll have to wait until the production Dodge Challenger SRT8 makes its debut at the Chicago Auto Show next February. But there’s no surprise about the benchmark performance of the Challenger SRT8. Each is powered by a 6.1-liter HEMI V-8, and features a numbered dash plaque, plus dual “carbon-fiber” hood stripes that harken back to the original Dodge Challenger. The car is available in black, silver or HEMI orange. “More than half of the orders are HEMI Orange,” Mallie said. “It’s been almost 35 years since the last Challenger, and there’s a lot of interest. There’s a lot of people anxious for it. It’s certainly an iconic muscle car.” The manufacturer’s suggested retail price is $37,995, including a $675 destination fee. Remember – this is a SRT, delivering top-of-the-line performance, world-class ride and handling, benchmark braking and a race-inspired interior. Pricing on the rest of the Challenger lineup will be announced at a later date. Since pricing was announced on Nov. 29, Web site traffic to www.Dodge.com has spiked up 23 percent, Mallie said. The muscle car wars start next spring, when deliveries begin for the Challenger SRT8. But later this week, muscle car fans will have more to squeal about, when we release some eye candy. Check back here later.

July.

The wheelbase of a 1970 and a 2008 are 6 inches off. Carbon copy just ain't gonna happen (whereas a 2008 Mustang is only 1 inch off from a 64-69 Stang). Look at the overhangs, the rake of the windshields, the length of the rear decks. I've seen both in person together...the 2008 compliments the 1970 very nicely, but it is by no means a carbon copy.

Funny how many people say this, but when you look at the two side-by-side you can REALLY see the differences. Sure, the new one was definitely inspired by the old...but FAR from a carbon-copy.

Only 3 options available on the Challenger that total $1,890. Comes loaded. http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index...showtopic=18991

Looks like its pretty much fully loaded stock. Posted by oh2o at Allpar.com

Just an aside, after gas guzzler tax, MSRP will be $40K

SRT8 LX's already come stock with incredible seating (leather and suede). Stock with 20" x 9.0" aluminum wheels and Boston Acoustics sound system. Here's the seats, which I had the opportunity to sit in...very comfy and they hold you in place like glue. Of course there are more options available, but the price of the Challenger is exactly in line with other SRT8 models. I am actually surprised they did not charge more (but naturally glad they did not). The Charger SRT8 MSRP's for just about $37K and the 300C SRT8 MSRP's for almost $42K.

As cheesy as Knight Rider was, it was known for the Pontiac. While not as relevant, would a remake of Bullit racing through the streets of SF in a Vette or a GTR be met favorably? Actually, is a remake of Knight Rider at all going to be met favorably? Not sure there was many choices in this day and age of what other cars to use though. Camaro obviously is out since that is permanently connected to Transformers.

Living in an area where most people drive the afore mentioned competitors cars (Mercedes, BMW's, Lexus, etc...) I can attest that most people lease these vehicles. (I'll stick with my cheap paid off cars thank you) Now Lincoln does have the price advantage. BUT, a lot will depend on what number they calculate residuals on. Being that many luxury car owners do lease, if the new Lincoln suffers great depreciation (which is not known at this point obviously), the big "howmuchamonth" difference between it and its competitors may not be enough to sway someone over. HOWEVER, if residuals on the MKS stay within reasonable percentages. This could be a good "step-up" vehicle...much as the Lexus ES is currently.

Lots of marked NYPD Charger units in Queens/Brooklyn. I've seen a lot of them..

Are those 11" wheels? Not bad looking at all.

Mercury is sooooooooo dead. This is just a warm up.

Brand spankin' new 1984 Renault Alliance Convertible. Oy....I wish they would have failed me!

Current Gen Toyota 4-Runner