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Sedans won't make a comeback, just as personal luxury coupes did not make a comeback, and pony cars are just a fraction of their peak in the 60's. I don't expect sedans will drop to the extent personal luxury coupes and pony cars did, but I don't expect sales to grown either. I am a sedan buyer myself but also a realist on the direction of the market.

I thought the Mustang was going entirely electric by the end of the decade.

The posters at allpar hate the Renegade, Compass, and Cherokee and believe they cheapen the brand and should be moved to Dodge or Chrysler.

Big chunk of Ford sales and profits come from F series sold in rural areas, and hardly any of those buyers will purchase EV within 20 years.

I am well aware of that. In 1978, I purchased a Popular Science magazine that had the first pictures of the cars. Very little of the history of the development of the platform has been written. I can find a lot more about the development of the downsized 1962 Dodge and Plymouth than I can about the Panther.

How much did the Panther have in common with the 65 full-size Ford platform?

Only Thunderbird I did not like was the final 2 seater version based on DEW98. I even like the hated 80 - 82 Fox platform version. The 61 - 66 unibody Thunderbird had much in common with the Lincoln Continental. According to what I have read on Curbside Classic, all of the 67 - 79 body on frame Thunderbirds were loosely based on the 65 full-size Ford. Even Ford's 72 - 79 mid-size cars were based on a shortened 65 full-size platform with a modified rear suspension.

For what it's worth, Borg himself said on GMI that all of Ford's crossovers will be EV by 2030. No point in continuing to compete in increasingly price sensitive ICE crossover market. Toyota and Honda with the RAV-4 and CR-V are doing to everyone else what they did to sedan market with Camry and Accord. He also continues to say plans for Fusion Active ended with decision to pursue Maverick. Pickups and rugged lifestyle vehicles may stay ICE but will be hybrid.

Acura should have stuck to the excellent Legend name for its primary sedan.

I think F series customers will be most resistant to electrification, but I won't be surprised if most F series models are hybrid or plug-in hybrid by 2030.

I have felt for awhile that the next Mondeo/Fusion Active would resemble a large Puma.

For sure nightmarish. I hope I'm dead by 2035.

Plenty of Americans will be pissed when Mustang is electric, and maybe the electric Mustang will be made at Oakville. I doubt sales would be more than a few thousand per year anyway. I think Tesla has usurped the EV market, and other automakers will be disappointed with their EV sales.

I have no question the Bronco will be successful and profitable. I just wonder how many people will be willing to pay over $30,000 for a Bronco Sport. I do look forward to the Maverick and hope there will be a basic version that is non-Eco Boost that will be in the low $20,000 range, especially as a replacement for the EcoSport is uncertain.

Then it's a good thing Ford got out of the sedan market and is building Rangers, Broncos, and Bronco Sports instead.