rmc523 Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 Heres my idea for a new Cosmopolitan, a range topping large Lincoln sedan with all the ammeneties that luxury sedan owners have come to expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlozenge Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Heres my idea for a new Cosmopolitan, a range topping large Lincoln sedan with all the ammeneties that luxury sedan owners have come to expect. Lose the dubs and raise the roof. Anyone driving that car would look like a 5 year old sitting on a stack of phone books, they'd barely be able to see over the door sill. The 4" tall letters on the side wouldn't go over well either. All that bling is for Cadillac drivers, Lincoln has always had the understated look. The car for a person who didn't need to shout "LOOK AT ME! I'VE GOT LOTS OF MONEY!!!". At this point though, I'd take anything that worked. I'm not comfortable with the "near-luxury" placement of the modern Lincoln. It should go head-to-head with Cadillac, Lexus and the Mercedes S Class. I wouldn't miss Mercury, but I'd hate to see Lincoln dropped in favor of a Volvo or Jaguar standard-bearer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnFan Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 The beltline should be about less than an inch lower, smaller wheel wells with a hint of hips, the Cosmoplitan chrome letters should be a little smaller. It would be perfect then. Love the rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maranellolt7 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 The side, the windows, doors, and roof look too much like a chrysler 300 in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 9, 2008 Author Share Posted January 9, 2008 (edited) The side, the windows, doors, and roof look too much like a chrysler 300 in my opinion. I have an updated version I'll try to post on here sometime. See below \/ Edited February 3, 2008 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 3, 2008 Author Share Posted February 3, 2008 (edited) Here's an update to my Cosmopolitan idea, along with the original. Sorry about the size difference, I'll try to even them out tomorrow. The old one is on the left and the new one is on the right. Thoughts? Edited February 10, 2008 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 So 1,248 views and 6 replies, 3 of which are mine? It seems like people come to the Photochops section, but don't respond. Does anybody have a comment or thought about my updated Cosmopolitan? (see post #6) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Soze Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Still too much 300 in there for my liking. I hate the low-roof/tiny windows look and any wheel over 18" in diameter just looks silly to me. I do like the front end treatment, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 Still too much 300 in there for my liking. I hate the low-roof/tiny windows look and any wheel over 18" in diameter just looks silly to me. I do like the front end treatment, though. Well thanks. It is better than it was though, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Soze Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Well thanks. It is better than it was though, right? Without a doubt. And hey, just because I don't like it doesn't mean it wouldn't sell. Every single Chevy HHR I see proves that fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 Without a doubt. And hey, just because I don't like it doesn't mean it wouldn't sell. Every single Chevy HHR I see proves that fact. Thanks.....and I respect your opinion (you're one of the few that gives one) that's why I ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas1022 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 (edited) Still too much 300 in there for my liking. I hate the low-roof/tiny windows look and any wheel over 18" in diameter just looks silly to me. I do like the front end treatment, though. OK, I don't care for the wheels that much either. Same for the roof, too low. Too turret-like and does not seem practical. I am assuming that you would expect this to be a working drawing of a car that is to be produced. Not just a styling exercise. I wonder if you threw in a little of the early 60's Continental to the sides if that would smarten it up some, and give the lower portion something to offset the cab with, so that the cab could be taller? I talking silhoutte, not so much being slab sided. The Continental had an absolute ridge running from the turn signals to the taillights, with chrome on top of that. Maybe if there were a hint of a ridge to what you have already. Not pronounced, but subtle? I'm thinking that an Acura that I saw had something like that on the last RL? Edited February 10, 2008 by jonas1022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 OK, I don't care for the wheels that much either. Same for the roof, too low. Too turret-like and does not seem practical. I am assuming that you would expect this to be a working drawing of a car that is to be produced. Not just a styling exercise. I wonder if you threw in a little of the early 60's Continental to the sides if that would smarten it up some, and give the lower portion something to offset the cab with, so that the cab could be taller? I talking silhoutte, not so much being slab sided. The Continental had an absolute ridge running from the turn signals to the taillights, with chrome on top of that. Maybe if there were a hint of a ridge to what you have already. Not pronounced, but subtle? I'm thinking that an Acura that I saw had something like that on the last RL? Is it the wheel design you don't like or the size, or both? The roof is better than it was. I did raise it quite a bit. I think part of what's throwing off how much I changed it is 1) I think the images posted are different sizes than they would be in real life (if that makes sense) and 2) I also raised the trunk height, which makes the roof look lower (not as high, at least) as well. I guess you're talking a bit more pronounced, but if you look closely, there's a character line that begins over the front fender and continues over the fender vent along the side of the car under the beltine....it then has a slight uptick and eventually blends into the tailllight/trunk area. I guess that's not what you had in mind? Maybe a little more pronounced as I said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSgagz Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I personally think it's a great fresh idea for Lincoln. As I look over the drawing I cannot find something that I do not like. I'm not trying to be overly generous but this is great... There's nothing that could prevent it from beating Cadillac. The roof/belt line is perfect and the design flows seamlessly. I love it and if Lincoln was smart then they would build this ASAP but just one question, where would this be situated in the lineup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 (edited) I personally think it's a great fresh idea for Lincoln. As I look over the drawing I cannot find something that I do not like. I'm not trying to be overly generous but this is great...There's nothing that could prevent it from beating Cadillac. The roof/belt line is perfect and the design flows seamlessly. I love it and if Lincoln was smart then they would build this ASAP but just one question, where would this be situated in the lineup? Thanks, and welcome to BOF. It'd be right on top of the lineup (think of what Town Car used to be). It'd compete with BMW 7-series, MB S-class, Lexus LS, Audi A8, and the likes. Yes, a Lincoln competing with them Edited February 11, 2008 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Heres my idea for a new Cosmopolitan, a range topping large Lincoln sedan with all the ammeneties that luxury sedan owners have come to expect. Looks like an intergration of a CTS, 300C, and an MKR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 12, 2008 Author Share Posted February 12, 2008 Looks like an intergration of a CTS, 300C, and an MKR! Is that a good thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 As drawn, it would be very difficult to fit a powertrain under that hood, unless it's a 4-cylinder. The windshield extends to the back of the front wheel opening, so the cabin intrudes, and the lack of front overhang means that collision performance would be challenged, but more important, there's just no place for all that powertrain stuff to live in. You would find putting a turbo V-6 a very difficult thing to do . . . the differential has to have a straight path to the front wheel centers, so the engine has to be ahead of the wheel centers, or behind it. As drawn it could be a RWD car, with lousy weight distribution: cab forward, with the engine sitting right in the middle of the wheels. That's why, as I posted a while back, we draw to scale, as it helps avoid these problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 (edited) As drawn, it would be very difficult to fit a powertrain under that hood, unless it's a 4-cylinder. The windshield extends to the back of the front wheel opening, so the cabin intrudes, and the lack of front overhang means that collision performance would be challenged, but more important, there's just no place for all that powertrain stuff to live in. You would find putting a turbo V-6 a very difficult thing to do . . . the differential has to have a straight path to the front wheel centers, so the engine has to be ahead of the wheel centers, or behind it. As drawn it could be a RWD car, with lousy weight distribution: cab forward, with the engine sitting right in the middle of the wheels. That's why, as I posted a while back, we draw to scale, as it helps avoid these problems. Maybe extent the trunk and make it a rear engine! Edited February 13, 2008 by Furious1Auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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