stapking Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Way Forward doesn't include Crown Vic Dealers will no longer sell the Ford Crown Victoria October 31, 2007 By SARAH A. WEBSTER FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER Ford Motor Co. dealers will no longer sell the Ford Crown Victoria large car to customers at retail. There are fewer than 80 2007 Crown Victoria cars on dealer lots nationwide today, and there are no plans to deliver 2008 versions of the vehicle to dealers, Ford’s top sales analyst, George Pipas, told the Free Press. Advertisement In the place of the Crown Victoria, Ford will continue to direct car customers to the Ford Taurus, Fusion and Focus, Pipas said. The large Taurus sedan is slightly smaller than the Crown Victoria, but offers similar cabin and cargo space. The vehicle will continue to be sold in bulk to fleet customers, such as business and governments. In recent years, the Crown Victoria business has been 95% fleet. Last year, Ford sold 3,200 of the cars to retail customers, with 60,000 going to fleet customers. A Ford spokesman said in an email that the change on production volumes “won't be significant” at the St. Thomas plant. The Mercury Grand Marquis and Lincoln Town Car, which are built on the same underpinnings of the Crown Victoria, will continue to be sold to customers at retail, Pipas said. Production of the Town Car stopped earlier this year when Ford closed its Wixom Assembly Plant. However, there are plans to resume production of the large car at the St. Thomas Assembly Plant in Ontario, where the Crown Victoria and Grand Marquis are now built. Through September, sales were down 9% for the Crown Victoria, 17% for the Grand Marquis and 12% for the Lincoln Town Car. Several experts previously told the Free Press that they believe the St. Thomas plant, which builds all those aging models, will eventually be closed as part of Ford’s Way Forward turnaround plan. Aside from the current large cars built there, no future products have been announced for the plant. Ford’s Way Forward plan calls for closing 16 plants, eliminating 44,000 jobs and revamping the Ford, Mercury and Lincoln product lineups in an effort to make Ford’s ailing North American business unit profitable again by 2009. Ford has named just 10 of the plants it intends to close, leaving 6 more to be identified. That includes two assembly plants and four parts factories. Pretty sad that Ford is cutting it's own throat! I love that all the experts are saying our cars are dying off, weird though that sales for all three cars are moving up. Yeah lets push Ford customers to the other Ford cars which as far as I'm concerned are inferior to the proven Panther when it comes to saftey and durability! Yes make the Crown Vic a sales fleet car whatever but the Gm is just as good why push them to something else. Put them into the GM which comes from the now rated number 1 quality plant from Ford Canada! Good work everyone and our rating has nothing to do with us on 1 shift. It makes no difference whether we're on one, two or three shifts -- STAP KICKED ASSS! :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armadamaster Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 (edited) Of course they could have bothered to include that the Crown Vic has been advertised more over the last decade by OTHER automakers in their Accord and Camry commercials than by Ford. Or that the Crown Vic has not been in stock on a Ford lot outside of FL for the last five years. Or the standard issue sales tactics when someone actually came in asking for a Crown Vic was to shove them into a Contour, Fukus, FWD turd of the month instead and tell the customer that the CV was no longer made, or the..... Edited November 1, 2007 by Armada Master Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topgun Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Way Forward doesn't include Crown VicDealers will no longer sell the Ford Crown Victoria October 31, 2007 By SARAH A. WEBSTER FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER Ford Motor Co. dealers will no longer sell the Ford Crown Victoria large car to customers at retail. There are fewer than 80 2007 Crown Victoria cars on dealer lots nationwide today, and there are no plans to deliver 2008 versions of the vehicle to dealers, Ford’s top sales analyst, George Pipas, told the Free Press. Advertisement In the place of the Crown Victoria, Ford will continue to direct car customers to the Ford Taurus, Fusion and Focus, Pipas said. The large Taurus sedan is slightly smaller than the Crown Victoria, but offers similar cabin and cargo space. The vehicle will continue to be sold in bulk to fleet customers, such as business and governments. In recent years, the Crown Victoria business has been 95% fleet. Last year, Ford sold 3,200 of the cars to retail customers, with 60,000 going to fleet customers. A Ford spokesman said in an email that the change on production volumes “won't be significant” at the St. Thomas plant. The Mercury Grand Marquis and Lincoln Town Car, which are built on the same underpinnings of the Crown Victoria, will continue to be sold to customers at retail, Pipas said. Production of the Town Car stopped earlier this year when Ford closed its Wixom Assembly Plant. However, there are plans to resume production of the large car at the St. Thomas Assembly Plant in Ontario, where the Crown Victoria and Grand Marquis are now built. Through September, sales were down 9% for the Crown Victoria, 17% for the Grand Marquis and 12% for the Lincoln Town Car. Several experts previously told the Free Press that they believe the St. Thomas plant, which builds all those aging models, will eventually be closed as part of Ford’s Way Forward turnaround plan. Aside from the current large cars built there, no future products have been announced for the plant. Ford’s Way Forward plan calls for closing 16 plants, eliminating 44,000 jobs and revamping the Ford, Mercury and Lincoln product lineups in an effort to make Ford’s ailing North American business unit profitable again by 2009. Ford has named just 10 of the plants it intends to close, leaving 6 more to be identified. That includes two assembly plants and four parts factories. Pretty sad that Ford is cutting it's own throat! I love that all the experts are saying our cars are dying off, weird though that sales for all three cars are moving up. Yeah lets push Ford customers to the other Ford cars which as far as I'm concerned are inferior to the proven Panther when it comes to saftey and durability! Yes make the Crown Vic a sales fleet car whatever but the Gm is just as good why push them to something else. Put them into the GM which comes from the now rated number 1 quality plant from Ford Canada! Good work everyone and our rating has nothing to do with us on 1 shift. It makes no difference whether we're on one, two or three shifts -- STAP KICKED ASSS! :shades: Who do you want to believe Sarah Webster or Whitey Macdonald before he left. Take Whiteys word over Sarah any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Bottom line is ...body on frame construction is dead for passenger cars.....SUV's are next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemiman Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Bottom line is ...body on frame construction is dead for passenger cars.....SUV's are next Been said before, starting in the 1940's. If/when glue bonded composite body construction becomes accepted, BOF in some form will return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SysEng Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Who do you want to believe Sarah Webster or Whitey Macdonald before he left. Take Whiteys word over Sarah any day. Hint; If the "way forward" has to be done by 2009 and the current "panthers" are finished by 2011, does it not seem a bit odd to you that these supposedly dead platforms are still around years after WF is done? The WF for the "panthers" is more likely to be defined on this and other forums by actual customers, not some media types and lame brain tree huggers. The evidence is in the numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stap1520 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Another great mistake by Ford , instead of refreshing or redesigning these great large cars they are killing them off and losing a great profit maker.... say goodbye to the crown vic and grand marquis soon and to STAP also it looks like...Ford is doing their best to kill these cars off and push the 500/taurus for some reason they dont care about the crown vic at all.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stapking Posted November 2, 2007 Author Share Posted November 2, 2007 Just saw the bullshit that Chrysler is going through laying off what is it 1200 workers from Brampton yeah and on the other side of the paper China showing off their cars that go for 10,000 yeah and Chrysler laying off here and yet going into a partnership with a company in China. Nothing like feeding the red war machine that in the meantime is willing to take our money to build up their arms or money to either take us out or buy up our land because they are so over crowded and polluted. This is all smart you see when we all loose our jobs and with our new jobs making crap money all we will be able to afford is crap Chinease cars and we'll look back on the old days "Remeber when we made those great cars that would last forever?" Stupid Americans and Canadians the majority of us won't wake up until the bank comes in and takes our house over not just the autoworker but everyone through the chain. Wait until Toyota starts gooning their employees over in order to compete against China who pay's their employees 4.00 hr. Japan can't even compete with that until they move their plants to let's say Iraq. I shit you not! Hopefully Harper and Hargrove can put a plan together and yes I say thyese two because they come from the opposite of the spectrum and I think these two once being enemies could start being allies. Harper for one does not give two shits what China thinks just look at the Dali Lama's visit. In the meantime boycott China, by the way how many pets did they kill with their poison they sold to our petfood companies. Are we next? War is not military now it's takeover in the boardroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stapworker Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 (edited) Saw great bumper sticker today. Wish I could find one to buy. Unemployed yet? Keep buying foreign. Maybe the Union should get some made up and hand them out at work. Edited November 3, 2007 by stapworker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charged92 Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Those were given out at the last union meeting. They are actually magnets (if we are talking about the same sticker) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Saw great bumper sticker today. Wish I could find one to buy.Unemployed yet? Keep buying foreign. Maybe the Union should get some made up and hand them out at work. The irony is that they are probably themselves a product of Mexico or some other country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charged92 Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Nope, made in Canada printed in the corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Another great mistake by Ford , instead of refreshing or redesigning these great large cars they are killing them off and losing a great profit maker....say goodbye to the crown vic and grand marquis soon and to STAP also it looks like...Ford is doing their best to kill these cars off and push the 500/taurus for some reason they dont care about the crown vic at all.... I would like to see the Crown Vic return on a 6" stretch version of the D3 Taurus with unique grille and tail treatments and a TwinForce V6 or the 4.4 V8 in the XC90 and AWD. That would make a hell of a statement, and if possible, build it right there at STAP with the upscale Marquis (drop the "Grand" from the name) and a new ultra lux Town Car. All three should be built on the D3 stretch version and the BoF Panther can finally be taken out of the retail scene. If Ford still wants to make a Panther Taxi/Police/Livery/export to middle east countries version, rename it the LTD and be done with it. The name "Crown Victoria" doesn't deserve to be dragged through the fleets. It deserves a place of honor at the top of the Ford brand line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 The name "Crown Victoria" doesn't deserve to be dragged through the fleets. It deserves a place of honor at the top of the Ford brand line up. Ford doesn't care that much about names. They were going to put "Mustang" on the FWD Probe back in the late 80s for pete's sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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