P71_CrownVic Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 LOL. This is some funny shit. You Ford Fans picking on a basic FWD economy car for having a beam rear suspension.Look at Ford's lineup. The only performance car in the Ford/Lincoln/Mercury lineup that can cost many time more than the Corolla also has a beam rear axle. LOL. Carry on with the Toyota Hate(envy). It is funny. But more of an apples to apples comparison...I bet the Corolla has rear headrests. Muhahahahhahah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 (edited) It is funny. But more of an apples to apples comparison...I bet the Corolla has rear headrests. Muhahahahhahah... While I agree the Mustang needs an IRS, it is more complex to implement in a RWD car than a FWD. With all the grief Ford gets for carrying over platforms, there's no excuse for Toyota to keep that archaic suspension on a FWD platform, especially with all the cash they have on hand. Edited December 30, 2007 by TomServo92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy8768 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 funny thing is that Corollas DID have independent rear suspension for 20 years before they switched to the rear beam on the current generation. Never did figure out why they did that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 funny thing is that Corollas DID have independent rear suspension for 20 years before they switched to the rear beam on the current generation. Never did figure out why they did that. Maybe it was the only way to make it profitable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 funny thing is that Corollas DID have independent rear suspension for 20 years before they switched to the rear beam on the current generation. Never did figure out why they did that. That makes it even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy82471 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Well, the XRS only has a manual. So, the older ladies will not get a stick, and the sporty car fan boys do not want a Corolla. So who will buy? When Ford refreshes an old compact they are slaughtered, but Toyota reskins and uses old transmissions and brakes, and it A-OK, since they make cars that run on air. Wrong. The XRS I believe also comes with a 5 speed automatic. And if u want more power, the dealer will install a supercharger just like the Scion TC that would bump the horspower to 200. And it is covered under warranty. But let us face it, by the time the new Corolla comes out gas prices in some parts of the country could apporach 4 bucks a gallon and performance will take a backseat to fuel efficiency. That is why Toyota sells a boatload of Corolla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman100 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 funny thing is that Corollas DID have independent rear suspension for 20 years before they switched to the rear beam on the current generation. Never did figure out why they did that. If the replacement costs for the rear struts on the newer platform is less than what it cost on my wife's 2000 Corolla, I'm all for doing away with a rear independent suspension and getting a simpler design. It's not like she really cares either way. My 92 Plymouth Acclaim cost me about $30 to replace the rear shocks on way back when. Oh yeah - I hate the rear headrests in her Corolla as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_fairmont_wagon Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 I had to take mine off and put them in a bag in the trunk. Blocked too much rear visibility and I rarely carried passengers in the back seat. That combined cycle gas mileage of around 34 mpg was really nice, though. As for the rear suspension, yeah, it may not be a real corner carver, but, it was good on the highway and competent around town. It is an automotive appliance, nothing more. It doesn't bother me that it has a torsen beam rear axle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 (edited) Point being...? Too bad no one mentioned the Mustang, or even mentioned it. If everything else in the market has pretty much abandoned it, then why should Toyota retain it? Isn't Ford constantly hazed for this sort of mentality? Does Toyota have a real reason as to why the Corolla should retain a torsion beam suspension? I mean if you can answer this questions logically (which I know you of all people won't) then I'd be willing to side with you. Otherwise, once again you have proved that your logic is yet again flawed. Meanwhile doesn't that Focus suck because it uses the OLD C170 platform. What I find REALLY amusing is the billboard I saw in Phoenix while I was there over holiday touting the Corolla as 'Sporty'. Umm, yeah right. Edited January 2, 2008 by Michael Reynolds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperPilot Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Well, the XRS only has a manual. So, the older ladies will not get a stick, and the sporty car fan boys do not want a Corolla. So who will buy? When Ford refreshes an old compact they are slaughtered, but Toyota reskins and uses old transmissions and brakes, and it A-OK, since they make cars that run on air. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Too bad no one mentioned the Mustang, or even mentioned it. If everything else in the market has pretty much abandoned it, then why should Toyota retain it? Isn't Ford constantly hazed for this sort of mentality? Does Toyota have a real reason as to why the Corolla should retain a torsion beam suspension? I mean if you can answer this questions logically (which I know you of all people won't) then I'd be willing to side with you. Otherwise, once again you have proved that your logic is yet again flawed. Meanwhile doesn't that Focus suck because it uses the OLD C170 platform. What I find REALLY amusing is the billboard I saw in Phoenix while I was there over holiday touting the Corolla as 'Sporty'. Umm, yeah right. I did mention it...indirectly So you people complain about a economy car having a cheap rear suspension, but the ancient suspension in a car that is meant to be driven is fine. What a bunch of hypocrites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F250 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 The real problem with the Corolla is the massive ECM failures the '06 and '07s are having. Contacts at the local dealer says they are being towed in every day but no recall just a TSB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy82471 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Exactly. Repeat after me : The XRS also comes with a 5 speed automatic. The XRS also comes with a 5 speed automatic. That is one more gear than the FOCUS has. FORD made a dumb move dropping the 2.3L engine as an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_fairmont_wagon Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 It wasn't selling because Ford REFUSED to offer it with an auto. So, by their accountants numbers, the ST was a money looser and needed to be dropped (instead of fixing the problem and maybe actually selling a few of them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CivicDuty2007 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I don't like the Corolla simply because they do not have an up to date suspension....our Honda Civic, even though the DX trim has rear drums(the EX has rear discs), still has a suspension that is keeping up with the times........ Think of the Corolla as a SENIOR CITIZENS PRIDE AND JOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :boring: :boring: :boring: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I did mention it...indirectly No really? You missed the point. Next time try an apples to apples comparison (i.e. it would make much more sense to compare the Corolla with the rest of its respective class, not a vehicle capable of of producing over 400 hp from the factory). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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