waymondospiff Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Make Model - Dec 2007 - Total 2007 Ford Focus - 14,023 - 173,552 Mazda3 - 9,337 - 120,291 (On what is, remember, the C1 chassis, which is too expensive for the NA market according to Ford.) Chevy Aveo - 6,323 - 67,028 Chevy Cobalt - 17,591 - 200,620 Pontiac G5 - 2,509 - 27,928 Saturn Ion - 676 - 47,873 Dodge Caliber - 8,851 - 101,079 Toyota Yaris - 5,477 - 84,799 Toyota Corolla - 28,582 - 371,390 Scion xD - 1,638 - 10,948 Scion xB - 3,785 - 45,834 Honda Fit - 5,118 - 56,432 Honda Civic - 27,190 - 331,095 (Includes Hybrid sales of 3,223 in Dec & 32,575 in 2007) Nissan Versa - 6,214 - 79,443 Nissan Sentra - 6,879 - 106,522 Hyundai Accent - 1,945 - 36,055 Hyundai Elantra - 3,757 - 85,724 Kia Rio - 2,910 - 33,370 Kia Spectra - 6,688 - 73,474 Subaru Impreza - 5,376 - 46,333 (Highest Dec & total year sales for the Impreza ever.) For the month of December, here is the C-Class sales order: Corolla - Civic - Cobalt - Focus - Mazda3 - Caliber - Sentra - Spectra For the year, it looks pretty similar: Corolla - Civic - Cobalt - Focus - Mazda - Sentra - Caliber Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 (edited) Mazda 3 made in Japan, non UAW labor. OK? Can we stop with the "shoulda been a C1" now, since the next gen C346 is coming? Edited January 4, 2008 by 630land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Mazda 3 made in Japan, non UAW labor. OK? Exactly...More cars should be built this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waymondospiff Posted January 4, 2008 Author Share Posted January 4, 2008 Mazda 3 made in Japan, non UAW labor. OK? Can we stop with the "shoulda been a C1" now, since the next gen C346 is coming? The next gen C2 chassis is coming in 2011, I'd prefer to have had the C1 in 2005. And I guess Mazda keeps the price down by taking advantage of that notoriously cheap Japanese labor, eh? Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim kakouris Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 173,000 foci. sure is a lot of cars when it's supposed to be a huge flop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 (edited) 173,000 foci. sure is a lot of cars when it's supposed to be a huge flop. The Focus is a big fleet dumper and heavily HEAVILY rebated (but so is the Cobalt). The December sales are disappointing for a new model, especially with retail sales up so marginally. I dont' think it comes as any surprise that the Focus hasn't lit the market on fire, I can't find anybody who has positive thoughts about the car with the exception of my 63 year old father, but he still thinks the Astra is about the best thing since sliced bread . Edited January 4, 2008 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 The Focus is a big fleet dumper and heavily HEAVILY rebated (but so is the Cobalt). The December sales are disappointing for a new model, especially with retail sales up so marginally. I dont' think it comes as any surprise that the Focus hasn't lit the market on fire, I can't find anybody who has positive thoughts about the car with the exception of my 63 year old father, but he still thinks the Astra is about the best thing since sliced bread . 9 percent isn't really what I would call marginal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 (edited) The Focus is a big fleet dumper and heavily HEAVILY rebated (but so is the Cobalt). The 2008 Focus only has a $500 rebate and that's only if you finance it with Ford Credit. Edited January 4, 2008 by TomServo92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I can't find anybody who has positive thoughts about the car with the exception of my 63 year old father, but he still thinks the Astra is about the best thing since sliced bread . Well, it has the looks...it just needs more power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Well, it has the looks...it just needs more power. The Astra, talk about blandsville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 The Astra, talk about blandsville. Are you kidding ME??????????? When is your eye appt.? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Are you kidding ME??????????? When is your eye appt.? :P Just have one lol. I don't know, to me it just looks like its all been done before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Just have one lol. I don't know, to me it just looks like its all been done before. Well it has...just not here. What peeves me is that it look very sport and such...but it is ALL show and NO go. But 18K for that car is nothing to scoff at. And there may be an Astra Red Line in the works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Well it has...just not here. What peeves me is that it look very sport and such...but it is ALL show and NO go. But 18K for that car is nothing to scoff at. And there may be an Astra Red Line in the works. Maybe it will have the same sales success as the Aura.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Maybe it will have the same sales success as the Aura.... Maybe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkarlo Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 So 14k a month for 5k dealerships? On average that means each dealership sells only 3 Focuses a month? That sounds terrible for the owners. How do dealers survive with sales figures like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 So 14k a month for 5k dealerships? On average that means each dealership sells only 3 Focuses a month? That sounds terrible for the owners. How do dealers survive with sales figures like this? Well, Ford does sell other vehicles.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkarlo Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Well, Ford does sell other vehicles.... But most besides the F-Series sell around 10-15k a month. Plus a lot are like the vans and Crown Vics which are commercial, so I doubt the dealers make much off of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 But most besides the F-Series sell around 10-15k a month. Plus a lot are like the vans and Crown Vics which are commercial, so I doubt the dealers make much off of them. Yeah, so say Ford sold only 3 of each of its vehicles at each dealer. Thats 15x3=45 per month. Not all that bad, could be better. Really though, Ford is addressing this problem. They are reducing the number of dealers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Yeah, so say Ford sold only 3 of each of its vehicles at each dealer. Thats 15x3=45 per month. Not all that bad, could be better. Really though, Ford is addressing this problem. They are reducing the number of dealers. Heck..some of the tiny dealers in podunk towns likely have a few models they don't even bother keeping in stock at all. The bigger metro dealers are probably moving over a hundred of them a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Heck..some of the tiny dealers in podunk towns likely have a few models they don't even bother keeping in stock at all. The bigger metro dealers are probably moving over a hundred of them a month. I would say that is completely correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 (edited) Heck..some of the tiny dealers in podunk towns likely have a few models they don't even bother keeping in stock at all. The bigger metro dealers are probably moving over a hundred of them a month. We have some rural dealers around here that stock 95% trucks. They may have a couple of Fusions and Foci and maybe an Edge but that's about it. Edited January 4, 2008 by TomServo92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 We have some rural dealers around here that stock 95% trucks. They may have a couple of Fusions and Foci and maybe an Edge but that's about it. Thats how it is at the dealer nearest my parents. Lots of trucks, lots of used, very few cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkarlo Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Yeah, so say Ford sold only 3 of each of its vehicles at each dealer. Thats 15x3=45 per month. Not all that bad, could be better. Really though, Ford is addressing this problem. They are reducing the number of dealers. Just playing devils ad. That's not terrible. But here near DC, those are low numbers. Kinda sad getting rid of dealers too. On a side note Mazda sells an almost similar number of 3's yet with 1/8th the amount of dealerships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Just playing devils ad. That's not terrible. But here near DC, those are low numbers. Kinda sad getting rid of dealers too. On a side note Mazda sells an almost similar number of 3's yet with 1/8th the amount of dealerships. City dealers will sell many more cars, smaller dealers much less. Getting rid of dealerships is not a bad thing. It was kind of dumb to have as many as there were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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