rmc523 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I do also, I didn't care for the headlights at first, but they aren't nearly as ugly as they are in photos. They have this really neat overall powertool look to them King Ranch is probably my favorite model. The Harleys are nice as well, I just don't like black interiors though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted January 21, 2008 Author Share Posted January 21, 2008 What astounds me is how Ford took such a GREAT looking truck...and managed with JUST ONE refresh to turn it into a BUG-EYED abortion that crawled out of the plastic bag. I mean.....how???? Sig Quote! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted January 21, 2008 Author Share Posted January 21, 2008 (edited) I do also, I didn't care for the headlights at first, but they aren't nearly as ugly as they are in photos. They have this really neat overall powertool look to them Yeah...that front end is HOT!!!! No wonder small children run and hide every time one drives by. Edited January 21, 2008 by P71_CrownVic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Yeah...that front end is HOT!!!! No wonder small children run and hide every time one drives by. Oh yeah, lets use the work van as an Ex..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford-150 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Yeah...that front end is HOT!!!! No wonder small children run and hide every time one drives by. wow just get over yourself....i mean anybody will know thats a model that people do not buy for looks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford-150 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Considering you don't even seem to be the target market for the vehicle, why are you even talking? Although, given your past vehicles, you don't seem to be a prime example of 'fine taste' in automobile design. i try to get that point around but to no avail...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armadamaster Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 (edited) Considering you don't even seem to be the target market for the vehicle, why are you even talking? If the target vehicle falls under "fugly"...then no I don't count myself in that demographic. Although, given your past vehicles, you don't seem to be a prime example of 'fine taste' in automobile design. That's right.....you go boy......hate on the guy who buys his vehicles for rarely matched durability, safety, comfort, and longevity.....instead of trinkets and because the neighbors have three. Sig Quote! Edited January 21, 2008 by Armada Master Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one2gamble Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I see new sd's every day all over the place, I honestly wasnt sure about them at first but everyone besides the fugly black plastic grilled model looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinb120 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Gotta love reports for Texas, NM, or CA when they let their illegal population run out of control and suffer the consequences. All so a scant few politicians can get a wider voting base they ruin their states and cities and everything else for that matter. You get what you ask for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roush235 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 The article in the Houston Chronicle (front page in yesterday's Sunday edition) was pretty interesting. The main points I got from it are as noted above: this is the smuggler's vehicle of choice because it is 1) tough, 2) roomy, 3) powerful, and 4) (!!) easy to steal. I have nearly first-hand knowledge of this stuation. A couple years ago my next door neighbor's crew cab Super Duty Lariat was stolen from a downtown parking garage. He got it back 2-3 months later, with the only damage being to the leather back seat. I forget the mileage it had accumulated during that short time, seems like it was 10-15,000 miles. It was recovered at a border crossing when someone cross-checked it against a stolen vehicle report. That's quite a few trips up and down US 59. Law enforcement commented on the same points as the article, namely the vehicle had been used for smuggling drugs and/or humans. Fast-forward to today, most of the time it is parked on the street or in his driveway in the subdivision. His wife often drives it to work (schoolteacher). I wonder if it might turn up missing again someday. One other point from the article: The Ford stolen vehicle rate is way higher than Chevy or Dodge. No mention of Toyota..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I see new sd's every day all over the place......everyone besides the fugly black plastic grilled model looks great. I am seeing tons as well. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 (edited) One other point from the article: The Ford stolen vehicle rate is way higher than Chevy or Dodge. No mention of Toyota..... Maybe that's because there's more of them around to steal? :shrug: Edited January 22, 2008 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted January 22, 2008 Author Share Posted January 22, 2008 Maybe that's because there's more of them around to steal? :shrug: Maybe it is because they are easy to steal. From the article: they can be "stolen with a screwdriver" according to the Houston PD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 If the target vehicle falls under "fugly"...then no I don't count myself in that demographic. Hmm. Actions speak louder than words, buddy: 1994 Buick Roadmaster 5.7 V8 130K Daily Driver 1992 Chevy Caprice 9C1 5.7 V8 108K Daily Driver 1989 Chevy Cheyenne EX-CAB 5.0 V8 133K Spare Retired: 1992 Chevy Caprice 9C1 5.7 V8 146K 89 Chevy Caprice 5.0 V8 173k 97 Toyota T100 2.7 4cyl 270k 93 Chevy Cavalier 2.2 4cyl 55k 88 Chevy Caprice Classic 5.0 V8 100k 89 Chevy Caprice 9C1 5.7 V8 210k 87 Dodge Ram D150 5.9 V8 70k 85 Dodge Diplomat 5.2 V8 55k 83 Chevy Impala 9C1 5.7 V8 165k 84 Olds Delta 88 5.0 V8 160k 83 Olds Delta 88 5.0 V8 200k 74 Buick Riviera 455 V8 170K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Also odd that PATS ain't standard on the SD. Especially an SD with leather, etc. With PATS, the only way you can steal the truck is if you've got one of the keys. PCM won't fire without a signal from the key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Also odd that PATS ain't standard on the SD. Especially an SD with leather, etc. With PATS, the only way you can steal the truck is if you've got one of the keys. PCM won't fire without a signal from the key. They're supposedly standard as of 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 They're supposedly standard as of 2008. That's the end of that chapter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armadamaster Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Hmm. Actions speak louder than words, buddy: 1994 Buick Roadmaster 5.7 V8 130K Daily Driver 1992 Chevy Caprice 9C1 5.7 V8 108K Daily Driver 1989 Chevy Cheyenne EX-CAB 5.0 V8 133K Spare Retired: 1992 Chevy Caprice 9C1 5.7 V8 146K 89 Chevy Caprice 5.0 V8 173k 97 Toyota T100 2.7 4cyl 270k 93 Chevy Cavalier 2.2 4cyl 55k 88 Chevy Caprice Classic 5.0 V8 100k 89 Chevy Caprice 9C1 5.7 V8 210k 87 Dodge Ram D150 5.9 V8 70k 85 Dodge Diplomat 5.2 V8 55k 83 Chevy Impala 9C1 5.7 V8 165k 84 Olds Delta 88 5.0 V8 160k 83 Olds Delta 88 5.0 V8 200k 74 Buick Riviera 455 V8 170K I never argued that any of mine were/are groundbreaking, but at least they don't look like something from "The Fly". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainp4 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I also found it strange when I found out the SD didn't have the PATsystem. My buddy's '01 focus has it. My '00 f150, '06 mazda3 and I think even my '99 ranger had it. Only downside to the system is expensive keys. and you need to get a tow to the dealer if you loose the keys. and sales are up for the SD from what I've heard. Yeah, it doesn't look as good as the '05-'07 but no one that needs one of these trucks cares what it looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 (edited) I never argued that any of mine were/are groundbreaking, but at least they don't look like something from "The Fly". No. You said that you did not consider yourself part of a demographic interested in an 'exceptionally ugly' vehicle (meaningless intensifier has been substituted.) From where I sit, your ownership history spans three decades of automotive disasters. Along with two of the worst pickup trucks ever made: Edited January 22, 2008 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford-150 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I also found it strange when I found out the SD didn't have the PATsystem. My buddy's '01 focus has it. My '00 f150, '06 mazda3 and I think even my '99 ranger had it. Only downside to the system is expensive keys. and you need to get a tow to the dealer if you loose the keys. and sales are up for the SD from what I've heard. Yeah, it doesn't look as good as the '05-'07 but no one that needs one of these trucks cares what it looks like. how dare a truck driver talk about how a truck looks :rolleyes: only car driving people that think people never use trucks and they are always clean as can be should post about how they think a truck looks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I actually like how the SD looks. It looks dang tough. I even like the matte plastic XL model. While less aggressive, my initial response to the first separate platform SD was "OMG, they copied Dodge." Eventually I got used to the SD, but never quite got around that first impression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainp4 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 (edited) how dare a truck driver talk about how a truck looks :rolleyes: only car driving people that think people never use trucks and they are always clean as can be should post about how they think a truck looks Not sure if you're rolling your eyes at me or why.. I personally like the new superduty's. I hated them when I first saw them, but they've grown on me. I still think the '05-'07 were some of the best looking trucks Ford ever put out though. My point was people that need these trucks (that'd be me and my family and all the other people that make a living or tow heavy loads with these things.. look at my sig incase you don't believe me) aren't going to care if it "looks bug-eyed" or not. Edited January 22, 2008 by Captainp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford-150 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Not sure if you're rolling your eyes at me or why.. I personally like the new superduty's. I hated them when I first saw them, but they've grown on me. I still think the '05-'07 were some of the best looking trucks Ford ever put out though. My point was people that need these trucks (that'd be me and my family and all the other people that make a living or tow heavy loads with these things) aren't going to care if it "looks bug-eyed" or not. LOL no man im not rolling my eyes at you my point was there are people on here that judge trucks that they know very little about or even how to use them properly some people will beat this "the new SD is ugly" to fing death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainp4 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Alright, cool. I was confused :huh: lol I think there are some after market products to make punching the lock out harder to do (since the sd handles are plastic and all). I don't know if there's anything for the ignition though. They can still break the windows to get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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