BlackHorse Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 (edited) Ok I was just watching the local news and they played an excerpt from Baracks big 30 minute infomercial. He said "As President, here's what I'm going to do. If you're a family making less than two hundred thousand dollars (200,000) a year I'm going to give you a taxbreak." Now I didn't watch the infomercial when it was on because frankly it wouldn't matter what Barack said, I'm not a socialist and I'm not voting for him. But I do have just one question arising from that little excerpt. What happened to 250 Barack? Now suddenly the magic number is 200. This guy changes his story more than the kid who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. The other day Biden said the magic number was 150 thousand. Before its all over with the magic number will be 40 grand a year, hide and watch or sit there and watch. Edited October 30, 2008 by BlackHorse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Ok I was just watching the local news and they played an excerpt from Baracks big 30 minute infomercial. He said "As President, here's what I'm going to do. If you're a family making less than two hundred thousand dollars (200,000) a year I'm going to give you a taxbreak." Now I didn't watch the infomercial when it was on because frankly it wouldn't matter what Barack said, I'm not a socialist and I'm not voting for him. But I do have just one question arising from that little excerpt. What happened to 250 Barack? Now suddenly the magic number is 200. This guy changes his story more than the kid who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. The other day Biden said the magic number was 150 thousand. Before its all over with the magic number will be 40 grand a year, hide and watch or sit there and watch. It's 250 for married couples, 200 for single, and 150 for anyone of non-african descent. :shades: But seriously, everyone (that is well informed) knows at this point that this plan was wiped written on toiletpaper and is subject to skidmark interpretation. Hence the confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerM Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 (edited) It's called "Bait and Switch". (moved from other thread) I didn't watch it. I'd sooner watch the ShamWOW guy for 30 minutes. BUT, it is fascinating that he did it. Here is a guy that supposedly has this thing in the bag, yet spends millions to do what? Reintroduce himself to the American people? Does he suffer from lack of exposure? I heard the pundits use words like "unprecedented" and "well produced". First I seem to recall Ross Perot doing something similar in the '90s, so is it really unprecedented? Is a 30-minute commercial unprecedented? I've seen those two British guys or Billy Mays (sp?) selling crap late at night for 30 minutes at a time. They make Mighty Putty look awfully good, but would you buy it? Next, the Presidency is not produced. I need a guy with judgement, not polish. From where I stand, all he did (apparently) was sit still long enough to rehearse a speech on television; the same one he's given for the last 2 years. Is that compelling? Give me enough editing time, and I could repeat the same, or maybe do it better. If Obama's still introducing himself two weeks AFTER early voting started in some states, perhaps things don't look so bad for McCain. A Sponge You Can Believe In! Edited October 30, 2008 by RangerM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinter Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 With all the debt this country has added as of lately, tax increases are on the horizon. It doesn't matter who becomes president. At this point before the election, we are seeing who the biggest liar is and just how gullible the masses are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 (edited) With all the debt this country has added as of lately, tax increases are on the horizon. It doesn't matter who becomes president. At this point before the election, we are seeing who the biggest liar is and just how gullible the masses are. Yes. Increase taxes. Reduce consumer spending. Reduce corporate investment. That's the way to move the economy forward. It has been well demonstrated that reducing taxes is a more effective means of increasing government revenue. We don't need more taxes. We need LESS spending. Edited October 30, 2008 by NickF1011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerM Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 With all the debt this country has added as of lately, tax increases are on the horizon. It doesn't matter who becomes president. At this point before the election, we are seeing who the biggest liar is and just how gullible the masses are. The groundwork is already starting. Barack Obama’s senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for his presidency if he wins next week’s election, amid concerns that many of his euphoric supporters are harbouring unrealistic hopes of what he can achieve. The sudden financial crisis and the prospect of a deep and painful recession have increased the urgency inside the Obama team to bring people down to earth, after a campaign in which his soaring rhetoric and promises of “hope” and “change” are now confronted with the reality of a stricken economy. One senior adviser told The Times that the first few weeks of the transition, immediately after the election, were critical, “so there’s not a vast mood swing from exhilaration and euphoria to despair”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinter Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Yes. Increase taxes. Reduce consumer spending. Reduce corporate investment. That's the way to move the economy forward. It has been well demonstrated that reducing taxes is a more effective means of increasing government revenue. We don't need more taxes. We need LESS spending. I agree with less spending, but we both know that is not how our government works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 I agree with less spending, but we both know that is not how our government works. So you'll just sit back and accept that? It's how we ought to demand that the government works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 I agree with less spending, but we both know that is not how our government works. That's why I'm buying an old oil rig and starting my own country. It will be communist (of course) with equal distribution of wealth between me and my multiple personalities :happy feet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted October 31, 2008 Author Share Posted October 31, 2008 (edited) double post, sorry Edited October 31, 2008 by BlackHorse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted October 31, 2008 Author Share Posted October 31, 2008 (edited) And of course the magic number has gone down even further. Now it's 120,000 a year. What Obama wants to do is he is basically looking at $120,000 and under among those that are in the middle class, and there is a tax cut for those," Richardson said in the interview, according to a clip posted on YouTube. http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/31/lo...e-class-making/ It's funny because pretty soon all those Barack supporters who were just chomping at the bit to have the government take money from rich people are about to find out that you are rich too. Edited October 31, 2008 by BlackHorse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Holy $)-(!7 Did anyone just see that interview on Fox News?!!! I wouldn't say it before, but Obama's campaign might have just given McCain the election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Holy $)-(!7 Did anyone just see that interview on Fox News?!!! I wouldn't say it before, but Obama's campaign might have just given McCain the election. What did we miss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerM Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 What did we miss? Trick or Treat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 What did we miss? Refer to the Bush Obama topic. I'm not writing that twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W. Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 (edited) It's 250 for married couples, 200 for single, and 150 for anyone of non-african descent. :shades: But seriously, everyone (that is well informed) knows at this point that this plan was wiped written on toiletpaper and is subject to skidmark interpretation. Hence the confusion. Once we were blind but now can see...... http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/artic...%5Egspc,%5Eixic President Obama's First Step: Reset Expectations Edited November 5, 2008 by Ron W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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