blazerdude20 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 http://blogs.motortrend.com/6339601/techno...ergy/index.html interesting read, didnt understand half of it but oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomerSooner Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Y'know what's just about as interesting? The collection of comments below the article. I can't recall the last time a group of comments was universally favorable toward anything Ford did/said/produced. Usually, I just have to cringe when I read the poison pen remarks from the great unwashed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battyr Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Brilliant! How soon until Ford gets this on the other engines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZ150 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Brilliant! How soon until Ford gets this on the other engines? Anyone? Is this released with the introduction of VVT? 2010? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Brilliant! How soon until Ford gets this on the other engines? It is pretty excellent. Way to go Ford! Perhaps they will take the next step forward and buy my fluent cam timing design :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_fairmont_wagon Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 As engines go under the knife for upgrades from here on out, this cam tech will be applied to them. This would be a nice improvement for the D35/D37 series. The Mod 4.6 won't be getting it as it is destined to die. The 5.0L might already have it. The D25 might get it mid life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battyr Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 It is pretty excellent. Way to go Ford! Perhaps they will take the next step forward and buy my fluent cam timing design :shades: Fuent cam timing design, tell us more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battyr Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 It is pretty excellent. Way to go Ford! Perhaps they will take the next step forward and buy my fluent cam timing design :shades: The next step is to use this system but get rid of the hydraulic fluid altogether and replace it with a clutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) Fuent cam timing design, tell us more. That would require NDA's for everyone that views this forum... The next step is to use this system but get rid of the hydraulic fluid altogether and replace it with a clutch. Hint. The next step is to rethink the geometry of a cam altogether. Edited November 13, 2008 by Versa-Tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemiman Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Pretty cool! Gotta laugh though. I can remember reading back in the 80's that the camshaft would soon be dead, replaced by solenoids. Really neat Idea that I bought into. Never took of due to high current required @ 12 volts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battyr Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Pretty cool! Gotta laugh though. I can remember reading back in the 80's that the camshaft would soon be dead, replaced by solenoids. Really neat Idea that I bought into. Never took of due to high current required @ 12 volts. We now have 200 to 300 volts in the hybrids. I think it is time that the auto industry finally ups the standard voltage in cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battyr Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Solenoids would use a huge amount on energy. But so would turning a cam shaft. The value (not valve) of cam shaft is that while one cam is pushing a lifter, restricting the shaft, another cam is being pushed ahead using energy stored in the valvespring of a returning valve. The kinetic energy of the valve is recycled. For Solenoids to work, you need a much more robust electrical system. And some way to use springs to recycle the kinetic energy of the valves. The Solenoids can be used to either accelerate the valve or generate electricity by slowing down a valve. By properly designing and weighting the valve spring, you can get the valve to naturally bounce open and close. The solenoids only need to give it a little extra boost to open it a little more and to keep the timing correct. It would be hell to get this system to work. But it would require very little power, and give you total contol over the valves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battyr Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I like the idea of using a cam shaft rather than trusting a computer to open the valves at the right time. A cam shaft can be used for the standard valve opening and closing. Adding a solenoid to a cam lifted valve will let you both advance the timing phase and increase the duration. You get the best of both worlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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