Trimdingman Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 (edited) AMEN. After all, that is what the constitution is for, to protect us against the very type of government that is now running this country. I hope that they wake up before it is too late. Did the policies of FDR and other socialists around the world work? The Liberals look upon FDR as their hero. How did history play out? We had a World War resulting in the deaths of 55 million people. I would give it an "F". Maybe this time we should try something else. Edited February 20, 2009 by Trimdingman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimdingman Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 AMEN. After all, that is what the constitution is for, to protect us against the very type of government that is now running this country. I like this quote so much that I just had to post it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordxer Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I like this quote so much that I just had to post it again. Thank you Trim. I wish more people thought this way. I heard something this morning on the way to work and it is the first time I can honestly say that I 100% agree with Bill Clinton. He said On Good Morning America (I think it was) that for the last 230 years people who have bet against the US have lost. Meaning that we always find it in ourselves to bounce back. I just hope we don't fall so far into socialism that there isn't a chance left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimdingman Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Thank you Trim. I wish more people thought this way. I heard something this morning on the way to work and it is the first time I can honestly say that I 100% agree with Bill Clinton. He said On Good Morning America (I think it was) that for the last 230 years people who have bet against the US have lost. Meaning that we always find it in ourselves to bounce back. I just hope we don't fall so far into socialism that there isn't a chance left. We will always bounce back, but it would be good if we could do it without wiping out half of the population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Fear Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Below is a summary HR 45 which was introduced 1/6/2009 by Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Illinois HR 45 - (2009-2010 Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009) To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes. Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - Amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm license under this Act or a state system certified under this Act and such license has not been invalidated or revoked. Prescribes license application, issuance, and renewal requirements. Prohibits transferring or receiving a qualifying firearm unless the recipient presents a valid firearms license, the license is verified, and the dealer records a tracking authorization number. Prescribes firearms transfer reporting and record keeping requirements. Directs the Attorney General to establish and maintain a federal record of sale system. Prohibits: (1) transferring a firearm to any person other than a licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a licensed dealer in accordance with national instant criminal background check system requirements, with exceptions; (2) a licensed manufacturer or dealer from failing to comply with reporting and record keeping requirements of this Act; (3) failing to report the loss or theft of the firearm to the Attorney General within 72 hours; (4) failing to report to the Attorney General an address change within 60 days; or (5) keeping a loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and ammunition for the firearm, knowingly or recklessly disregarding the risk that a child is capable of gaining access, if a child uses the firearm and causes death or serious bodily injury. Prescribes criminal penalties for violations of firearms provisions covered by this Act. Directs the Attorney General to: (1) establish and maintain a firearm injury information clearinghouse; (2) conduct continuing studies and investigations of firearm-related deaths and injuries; and (3) collect and maintain current production and sales figures of each licensed manufacturer. Authorizes the Attorney General to certify state firearm licensing or record of sale systems. This bill is in the first step in the legislative process. Introduced bills and resolutions first go to committees that deliberate, investigate, and revise them before they go to general debate. The majority of bills and resolutions never make it out of committee. [Last Updated: Feb 14, 2009 2:11PM] Last Action: Feb 9, 2009: Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security. Link to Full Text of HR 45: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimdingman Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 With all of the threats to our homeland security, you would think that the government would make it mandatory for each household to be well stocked with firearms and ammo, and screw the registrations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Fear Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 With all of the threats to our homeland security, you would think that the government would make it mandatory for each household to be well stocked with firearms and ammo, and screw the registrations. I can't believe you just said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimdingman Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I can't believe you just said that. They know that it is their own government that the people need to defend themselves against. That is why they are afraid of them being too well armed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rn4 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 They know that it is their own government that the people need to defend themselves against. That is why they are afraid of them being too well armed. Trim your way to paranoid, you need to get up futher in the great white north and get away from it all. :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94bronco Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 They know that it is their own government that the people need to defend themselves against. That is why they are afraid of them being too well armed. Exactly, All I can say is that if they ever try a big gun grab then everyone better stock up on ammo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimdingman Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Trim your way to paranoid, you need to get up futher in the great white north and get away from it all. :shades: We might all have to head for the woods once civilization collapses to escape the gulags. The cities will be chaos and under martial law. We need to keep our guns to prevent the government from enslaving us. This probably won't happen, but I prefer to be on the safe side in case it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Fear of Obama drives gun stocks higher Rising concern over increased regulation from the Obama White House has gun buffs stocking up on the latest tactical rifles and pistols. Ruger reported Tuesday that gun sales increased 81% in the fourth quarter on new products and "robust firearms demand." Its order backlog now stands at $48 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimdingman Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 They should take all restrictions off gun ownership. That would level the playing field between the criminals and the non-criminals. It would also be the end of armed robbery and the black market in un-registered guns. Thousands of police could be fired and the money returned to the taxpayers. Legalize drugs, and thousands more police could be fired. Prisons could be closed, lawyers fired, judges fired, and more money returned to the taxpayers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 wonder if we actually do need stricter gun control, and why some want them absolutely outlawed.......SAMSON, Ala. - A gunman who killed 10 people and himself in the worst mass shooting in Alabama history had trained as a police officer, recently quit his job at a sausage plant and was keeping a list of those "who done him wrong," authorities said Wednesday. Investigators found the list in 28-year-old Michael McLendon's home, Coffee County District Attorney Gary McAliley said. should I also mention Columbine........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinter Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 wonder if we actually do need stricter gun control, and why some want them absolutely outlawed.......SAMSON, Ala. - A gunman who killed 10 people and himself in the worst mass shooting in Alabama history had trained as a police officer, recently quit his job at a sausage plant and was keeping a list of those "who done him wrong," authorities said Wednesday. Investigators found the list in 28-year-old Michael McLendon's home, Coffee County District Attorney Gary McAliley said. should I also mention Columbine........ And tell us oh great Californian liberal, if that were to happen, why do they still have gun crimes in England and Australia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 And tell us oh great Californian liberal, if that were to happen, why do they still have gun crimes in England and Australia? New Zealand slow poke...almost IMPOSSIBLE to get handguns due to exceedingly strict parameters...don't see this happening over there...your point?..........no guns, no gun crimes...possible...probably not, but understand the angst AGAINST gun possession becaus of instances like this..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenhawkings Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 o just looked and i have my gun and bullets still, when is this going to change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 o just looked and i have my gun and bullets still, when is this going to change? my question is how the hell someone signs off on giving idiots like this possession....too easy for any damn moron to get a weapon here it seems...and thus this type of result....sickening.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 And tell us oh great Californian liberal, if that were to happen, why do they still have gun crimes in England and Australia? just for you sweet cheeks........Levels of gun violence vary greatly across the world, with very high rates in South Africa and Colombia, as well as high levels in Thailand, Guatemala, and some other developing countries.[8] Levels of gun violence are low in Singapore, Chile, New Zealand, and many other countries.[8] The United States has the highest rates among developed countries, which some account to the loose firearm laws in the U.S. compared to other developed countries.[9] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Ford Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 New Zealand slow poke...almost IMPOSSIBLE to get handguns due to exceedingly strict parameters...don't see this happening over there...your point?..........no guns, no gun crimes...possible...probably not, but understand the angst AGAINST gun possession becaus of instances like this..... Studies in the US overwhelmingly show that any correlation between gun ownership, gun regulations and violence is statistically insignificant. Good luck getting rid of guns in the first place; they took away the guns from my South African cousins a couple years back; they got the guns away from the law abiding citizens, the thugs kept them, and violence is as bad as ever over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Studies in the US overwhelmingly show that any correlation between gun ownership, gun regulations and violence is statistically insignificant. Good luck getting rid of guns in the first place; they took away the guns from my South African cousins a couple years back; they got the guns away from the law abiding citizens, the thugs kept them, and violence is as bad as ever over there. no correlation between ownership and gun crimes?....how can someone shoot something if they don't own one? Or perhaps you are thinking resgistered owners....yep, no easy answer..but toughening up the ability to own CANNOT hurt....this guy wasn't a gang member or "thug".....then again, if he hadn't had a gun what would he have used...sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinter Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 It will be interesting to see in the coming days what kind of anti-psychotic or psychotic drugs this guy was on. It sounds like the guy had a decent job and was respected according to MSNBC. So what made him snap? But as usual the LIB's will get a lot of mileage out of this incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 It will be interesting to see in the coming days what kind of anti-psychotic or psychotic drugs this guy was on. It sounds like the guy had a decent job and was respected according to MSNBC. So what made him snap? But as usual the LIB's will get a lot of mileage out of this incident. so suggested stricter regs makes me a liberal???????????interesting.....and agreed, will be interesting...could just be his reaction to the current economy and a switch got flicked...who knows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Ford Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) no correlation between ownership and gun crimes?....how can someone shoot something if they don't own one? Or perhaps you are thinking resgistered owners....yep, no easy answer..but toughening up the ability to own CANNOT hurt....this guy wasn't a gang member or "thug".....then again, if he hadn't had a gun what would he have used...sigh The correlation studies were between murder and gun ownership and gun regulation, not gun crime. They found that both gun ownership and gun regulations had a statistically insignificant impact on the murder rate. It can't hurt, well, I disagree. If the studies are right, and there is little correlation, a lot of taxpayer money will be used enforcing a policy that does little good (or some harm), and a lot of good people will lose their guns for no reason. This holding true, gun regulationes are a widely held belief of cure all that deflect away from real problems, like gang violence, drug related crime and crime in big cities that grosely inflate he crime statisitics of the US. Edited March 11, 2009 by V8 Ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 The correlation studies were between murder and gun ownership and gun regulation, not gun crime. They found that both gun ownership and gun regulations had a statistically insignificant impact on the murder rate. It can't hurt, well, I disagree. If the studies are right, and there is little correlation, a lot of taxpayer money will be used enforcing a policy that does little good (or some harm), and a lot of good people will lose their guns for no reason. This holding true, gun regulationes are a widely held belief of cure all that deflect away from real problems, like gang violence, drug related crime and crime in big cities that grosely inflate he crime statisitics of the US. so why so many gun crimes to begin with?....and more and more of this magnitude it seems....I'm at a loss, but it seems guns are way to easy to obtain, AND they get in the wrong hands ( irrespective of the gangs etc ) they should be harder...MUCH harder to obtain...hell, i could say the same for damn drivers licences....new bumper sticker " BRING BACK TURN SIGNALS"....bottom line, make em harder to get, a PRIVILIDGE to own one, and perhaps owners wuld treat them with more respect rather than abuse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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