gocash Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I hope that they decide to buy Ford vehicles,lots of police cars would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SU-FI Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I hope that they decide to buy Ford vehicles,lots of police cars would be great. corker and shelby will have them buying toyota and nissans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marginal Economist Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I think the number was reduced to 300M in vehicle purchases. "-- $300 million for federal fleet of hybrid vehicles (original bill was for $600 million)" CNN Money The scary part is it mentions hybrids. There is enough demand for hybrids that we can sell our enitre available allocation retail without the low-profit gov't fleet sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OUTRAGE Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 This is not a stimulus deal, it is an spending spree. This government is so IGNORANT. Lets create jobs that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars for each one created, and they will be of course government jobs. Obama is starting off just as bad as I that he was going to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 (edited) This is not a stimulus deal, it is an spending spree. This government is so IGNORANT. Lets create jobs that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars for each one created, and they will be of course government jobs. Obama is starting off just as bad as I that he was going to be. Boy you guys started even before he was inaugurated. Sorry he can't be a protectionist of the upper class the way Bush was! Edited February 9, 2009 by Furious1Auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Stimulus Spending Over Time The chart depicts the Obama shotgun approach of spraying bullets in multiple directions hoping that something, somewhere hits a target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvcpicker Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 :reading: Hey furious....didnt groups opposed to Bush hold alternative inagurations when Bush won ...BOTH TIMES? All presidents get grief immediately upon taking office. Obama is NO different! The President is now taking full control of the economy with this stimulus, there is no running now. This is HIS baby and we should look hard at it cause its OUR money! Just my two cents , no hostility just truth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordworker Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 (edited) :reading: Hey furious....didnt groups opposed to Bush hold alternative inagurations when Bush won ...BOTH TIMES? All presidents get grief immediately upon taking office. Obama is NO different! The President is now taking full control of the economy with this stimulus, there is no running now. This is HIS baby and we should look hard at it cause its OUR money! Just my two cents , no hostility just truth! TRUTH/FACTS WTF are u saying? Bush caused this bullshit by giving all the $ to the top 2% who then leveraged it on risky hedge funds that went broke! Bush and the GOP got rid of the regulations on the banks the same regulations FDR put in after these same bankers fucked the the economy and caused the depression in the 30's. And Obama has to clean up this mess, this is not Obama's mess it is and always will be Bush's ecomony. Just as people remembered that the 1929 crash was Hoover's fault we will remember this crash is Bush's and the GOP's fault. Dont expect the GOP to gain control of anything until at least 2020 at the earliest. GET YUST TO IT! The GOP is finished for a decade, look at the electorial map and tell me which state Obama won will go to any GOP person in 012. Maybe 1 or 2 but not enough to defeat any democrat. GOP=FINISHED After Hoover the GOP lost the Congress 30 out of the next 32 elections and history will repeat itself. Edited February 9, 2009 by fordworker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter227 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 300 million dollars, needs to be spent on North American vehicles, the ORIGINAL 3. Theres nothing that irks me more, than to pay my taxes, all of them , and see governments spending MY money on vehicles other than which auto manufacturers that were here first. Suddenly, people are waking up to find that the old cliche of autoworkers being overpaid is no longer the issue. The issue is, if we , autoworkers , are not working paying into the social structure to maintain a standard of living, neither are the other 7 people tied to each autoworker job. That means less money into the system, and more money needed , courtesy of your neighbour who just bought that import. I am not saying that everyone should buy North American, what I am saying is the more people who buy imports , are the same people who are going to have to pay more in taxes , etc, to maintain the standard of living we all have become accustomed to , not just autoworkers. On a side note, doing home renovations, going into a major home supply store, I was hard pressed to find anything made in North America, and when I thought I did , the item was manufactured in China. Here in Canada, our government has offered a 13.5% rebate on all home renovations over the course of the next year. Our Government here has long supported trade with China, which is fine, but I choose to put my money back into the pockets of North American Companies, my fellow Americans and Canadians alike. When I hire a contractor to do work on my home, If they pull in the driveway with anything other than a product from the Original 3, they do not get the contract, although I take their quote. Call me what you will, but if we on both sides of the border are going to climb out of this thing together, we have to stick together, and work together. Take Care and God Bless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored of Pisteon Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 TRUTH/FACTS WTF are u saying? Bush caused this bullshit by giving all the $ to the top 2% who then leveraged it on risky hedge funds that went broke! Bush and the GOP got rid of the regulations on the banks the same regulations FDR put in after these same bankers fucked the the economy and caused the depression in the 30's. And Obama has to clean up this mess, this is not Obama's mess it is and always will be Bush's ecomony. Just as people remembered that the 1929 crash was Hoover's fault we will remember this crash is Bush's and the GOP's fault. Dont expect the GOP to gain control of anything until at least 2020 at the earliest. GET YUST TO IT! The GOP is finished for a decade, look at the electorial map and tell me which state Obama won will go to any GOP person in 012. Maybe 1 or 2 but not enough to defeat any democrat. GOP=FINISHED After Hoover the GOP lost the Congress 30 out of the next 32 elections and history will repeat itself. Oh, yes history does repeat itself and that's why you'll have more of your rights taken away, Especially from ignorant people like yourself! The way this country is headed: You'll have Obama and his totalitarian quasi socialist, marxist-pragmatist government you all voted to change... :banmolest: :banmolest: YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE MOTHERFUCKERS. ENJOY IT! :fan: :fan: You people think Obama is gonna solve everything? Get a fuckin' clue! And quit supporting these asshole politicans that obviously don't give a fuck about you anyway. That includes both parties! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makeastand Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 300 million dollars, needs to be spent on North American vehicles, the ORIGINAL 3. Theres nothing that irks me more, than to pay my taxes, all of them , and see governments spending MY money on vehicles other than which auto manufacturers that were here first. Suddenly, people are waking up to find that the old cliche of autoworkers being overpaid is no longer the issue. The issue is, if we , autoworkers , are not working paying into the social structure to maintain a standard of living, neither are the other 7 people tied to each autoworker job. That means less money into the system, and more money needed , courtesy of your neighbour who just bought that import. I am not saying that everyone should buy North American, what I am saying is the more people who buy imports , are the same people who are going to have to pay more in taxes , etc, to maintain the standard of living we all have become accustomed to , not just autoworkers. On a side note, doing home renovations, going into a major home supply store, I was hard pressed to find anything made in North America, and when I thought I did , the item was manufactured in China. Here in Canada, our government has offered a 13.5% rebate on all home renovations over the course of the next year. Our Government here has long supported trade with China, which is fine, but I choose to put my money back into the pockets of North American Companies, my fellow Americans and Canadians alike. When I hire a contractor to do work on my home, If they pull in the driveway with anything other than a product from the Original 3, they do not get the contract, although I take their quote. Call me what you will, but if we on both sides of the border are going to climb out of this thing together, we have to stick together, and work together. Take Care and God Bless You hit the nail on the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makeastand Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 :reading: Hey furious....didnt groups opposed to Bush hold alternative inagurations when Bush won ...BOTH TIMES? All presidents get grief immediately upon taking office. Obama is NO different! The President is now taking full control of the economy with this stimulus, there is no running now. This is HIS baby and we should look hard at it cause its OUR money! Just my two cents , no hostility just truth! Republicans are so damn sore about losing the election. Wasn't eight years of Bush enough? If the GOP really wanted to win this election they should have prepared a better candidate. McCain/Palin was a sick joke. Partisanship is ruining this country along with career politicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvcpicker Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hey stand , the tone of your post says it all. YOUR partisanship is obvious. Dont forget your beloved fannie and freddie mac brother! Dont forget the forced mortgages given by democrats that created bad paper that then caused credit failure. 60 million to franklin raines for a failed mortgage company funded by your tax dollars???? Thats republicans right , no its BOTH you moron! You think ANY political party has your best interest in mind ! Your a simple minded human being. You can take your democratic talking points and hope that they save you! Good luck! THEY ALL SCREW US, PAY ATTENTION STAND , THEY ALL SCREW US. I brought up bush to show you it doesnt change no matter who is in office. But , you got us all pegged right stand! Only a BI-PARTISIAN like yourself can show us the way .....What a joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatso Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 (edited) Something clearly needs to be done or we will have a depression on our hands.My concern with back to back trillion dollar stimulus packages is a concern over fraud and abuse.Look at what the politicians allowed the financial institutions to do!Dateline NBC did a piece on a laid off female hdegefund employee who together with other females who were laid off opened a 'prostitution ring' and had executives of bailed out institutions buying hookers with corporate credit cards.That is more egregious than UAW autoworker pay.HELL, THAT IS FRAUD-A FELONY.Where is Limbaugh,Hannity,Coulture, and Bill O`Reilly?They are merely propagandist.Divide and Conquer is the American Way.Face it,,,the USA is heading towards Socialism for the masses,,,,coupled with status and elitism for a few. Edited February 10, 2009 by Fatso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvcpicker Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 :happy feet: Also , stand , once your guy obama passes and implements HIS economic package it will start effecting the economy. that begins the end of ANYTHING bush or fannie and freddie have done. What happens with that money , good or bad , is obama's doing. He , at some point , will be the sole owner of any consequence to the economy. You dont get a pass partner. sorry . Bush took office with a "small" recession from clinton. Yes , a recession , look it up historian ! So the fact that he pulled out of that was that because the country know obama was coming??? NO , they all affect the economy with their decisions , its just the way it works. When bush left his inability to regulate idiotic mortgage companies AND wall street caused his economy to tank! He now owns that legacy , your man too will own whatever legacy he creates. Good or bad. You dont get to white wash things with force and rhetoric. Explain to me how giving 5 billion to acorn helps our economy???????Explain to me why obama is screaming that republicans need to get on board when he doesnt need ONE of their votes to pass HIS bill??????Because if it fails he wants EVERYONE on board to share the blame!!!! Just passing along THE TRUTH my NONPARTISAN BROTHER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99ktpbirdman Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 TRUTH/FACTS WTF are u saying? Bush caused this bullshit by giving all the $ to the top 2% who then leveraged it on risky hedge funds that went broke! Bush and the GOP got rid of the regulations on the banks the same regulations FDR put in after these same bankers fucked the the economy and caused the depression in the 30's. And Obama has to clean up this mess, this is not Obama's mess it is and always will be Bush's ecomony. Just as people remembered that the 1929 crash was Hoover's fault we will remember this crash is Bush's and the GOP's fault. Dont expect the GOP to gain control of anything until at least 2020 at the earliest. GET YUST TO IT! The GOP is finished for a decade, look at the electorial map and tell me which state Obama won will go to any GOP person in 012. Maybe 1 or 2 but not enough to defeat any democrat. GOP=FINISHED After Hoover the GOP lost the Congress 30 out of the next 32 elections and history will repeat itself. Obama can fix it yes he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatso Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 ACORN performs a vital 'social engineering',,,,no-show,non-profit jobs,,,,,,,,uhhhh,, political debts will be payed back by the Obama people,,,,,,,,,,I gotta go wash my hands ,,,can`t believe I typed that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99ktpbirdman Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Something clearly needs to be done or we will have a depression on our hands.My concern with back to back trillion dollar stimulus packages is a concern over fraud and abuse.Look at what the politicians allowed the financial institutions to do!Dateline NBC did a piece on a laid off female hdegefund employee who together with other females who were laid off opened a 'prostitution ring' and had executives of bailed out institutions buying hookers with corporate credit cards.That is more egregious than UAW autoworker pay.HELL, THAT IS FRAUD-A FELONY.Where is Limbaugh,Hannity,Coulture, and Bill O`Reilly?They are merely propagandist.Divide and Conquer is the American Way.Face it,,,the USA is heading towards Socialism for the masses,,,,coupled with status and elitism for a few. Obama's way is to let the government throw money at the problem and giving people who don't even pay taxes a check. And taking my tax dollars and fund abortions is bulls@#t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelincolns Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 This is not a stimulus deal, it is an spending spree. This government is so IGNORANT. Lets create jobs that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars for each one created, and they will be of course government jobs. Obama is starting off just as bad as I that he was going to be. I certainly am not an economist but I feel much better about the plan when I hear people like Donald Trump and Jack Welch say they like the overall package. They do say they disagree with some of it but feel the overall package will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatso Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 (edited) nearly TWO TRILLION DOLLARS worth of 'stimulus programs'!!!! The politicians are going to STEAL THE EYEBALLS OUT OF THE TAXPAYER`S HEAD Look at what the bankrupt financials have done! Auto Bailout money will find its way offshore NO ONE is on the U.S.taxpayer`s side. DISASTER is IMMINENT. The WMD`s are called corrupt politicians Edited February 10, 2009 by Fatso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 (edited) Hey stand , the tone of your post says it all. YOUR partisanship is obvious. Dont forget your beloved fannie and freddie mac brother! Dont forget the forced mortgages given by democrats that created bad paper that then caused credit failure. 60 million to franklin raines for a failed mortgage company funded by your tax dollars???? Thats republicans right , no its BOTH you moron! You think ANY political party has your best interest in mind ! Your a simple minded human being. You can take your democratic talking points and hope that they save you! Good luck! THEY ALL SCREW US, PAY ATTENTION STAND , THEY ALL SCREW US. I brought up bush to show you it doesnt change no matter who is in office. But , you got us all pegged right stand! Only a BI-PARTISIAN like yourself can show us the way .....What a joke! Government programs allowed for lower then prime interest rates to qualified first time home buyers, the banks and mortgage companies were the ones qualifying them, not the democrats! If you want to get technical Bush knew it was happening, and revised the bankruptcy laws to protect the lenders. Instead he should have more closely regulated their lending practices! Edited February 10, 2009 by Furious1Auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvcpicker Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 :reading: So Furious , did fannie and freddie have NO part in the mortgage mess? It was all Bush? Your a smart poster , do you really beleive that fannie and freddie didnt push bad mortgages to keep the process moving? come on dude, hate the repubs thats fine but at least lay the blame EVERYWHERE it belongs! Many , MANY democrat congressmen and senators , democrats, denied the bush administration the regulations they needed to rein in fannie and feddie ? Why was that when they ALL knew that the mortgages were creating a problem? Politics thats why ,on both sides. I know you and stand and millions of others hate bush, i get it , but blame those no matter what party who deserve the blame. Democrats fucked this up as much as republicans they controlled the senate for the last four years remember. Again....THEY ALL SCREW US GET OFF THE BLAME GAME. JUST TRUTHFULLY POST IT ! Republicans and democrats will screw us , get used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makeastand Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hey stand , the tone of your post says it all. YOUR partisanship is obvious. Dont forget your beloved fannie and freddie mac brother! Dont forget the forced mortgages given by democrats that created bad paper that then caused credit failure. 60 million to franklin raines for a failed mortgage company funded by your tax dollars???? Thats republicans right , no its BOTH you moron! You think ANY political party has your best interest in mind ! Your a simple minded human being. You can take your democratic talking points and hope that they save you! Good luck! THEY ALL SCREW US, PAY ATTENTION STAND , THEY ALL SCREW US. I brought up bush to show you it doesnt change no matter who is in office. But , you got us all pegged right stand! Only a BI-PARTISIAN like yourself can show us the way .....What a joke! It is very clear that you have never read any of my posts and it doesn't matter. You can sit behind a computer screen and name call all you want. It is only a reflection of your intelligence. I have stated on this forum several times that "they all screw us". The GOP is acting like babies right now and because I say that you ASSUME that I totally agree with Obama and the dems. Maybe you should get to know people before you bad mouth them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordworker Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Oh, yes history does repeat itself and that's why you'll have more of your rights taken away, Especially from ignorant people like yourself! The way this country is headed: You'll have Obama and his totalitarian quasi socialist, marxist-pragmatist government you all voted to change... :banmolest: :banmolest: YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE MOTHERFUCKERS. ENJOY IT! :fan: :fan: You people think Obama is gonna solve everything? Get a fuckin' clue! And quit supporting these asshole politicans that obviously don't give a fuck about you anyway. That includes both parties! You need to read whats in the BUSH/GOP Homeland security bills then. Talk about taking away rights that bill took more away then FDR could of dreamed of taking away. The govt. can arrest you and hold you as long as they want and take you to trial and you dont get to hear the evidenve against you what kind of shit is that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatso Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 It is classic 'Americana' Divide and Conquer.While we all fight with each other NO ONE will notice where the $1,000,000,000,000 goes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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