donzuchowski Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index...=29381&st=0 The above link says that ford has canceled rwf development for ford and lincoln. So does that mean the mustang is going front wheel drive like it was susposed to when ford launched the probe or is the next mustang dead? Also is ford trucks going to fwd or are they dead to? i have heard of a few companies like honda using fwd for trucks the honda ridgeline, passport, and all. i like sideways drive. that is front left and rear right tire get power and by hybrid use too. i invented it in my mind to night... its late... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT40 2 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 LOL @ FWD Mustang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index...=29381&st=0 The above link says that ford has canceled rwf development for ford and lincoln. That RWD program had nothing to do with the Mustang or the trucks. It was for the CV/GM/TC replacements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 That RWD program had nothing to do with the Mustang or the trucks. It was for the CV/GM/TC replacements. I don't think it was limited to only the Panthers. I'm pretty sure GRWD would have spawned multiple RWD vehicles to replace both the Mustang and Panthers. Doesn't make sense to continue with the Mustang on a non-shared platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I'm starting to think either donzuchowski has a serious mental deficiency or he has a very bizarre sense of humor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefstang Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 LOL @ FWD Mustang Careful. Remember how close we were with the Probe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Careful. Remember how close we were with the Probe. I think Ford learned its lesson there already. I doubt they'd ever try it again after that disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94ranger Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 The Mustang is far too popular to kill and will probably be downsized before it ever sees front drive. Mustang II idea was a better idea than Probe and with todays engine technology it doesn't even have to go as far as the Mustang II did. Make it lighter and maybe a bit smaller but don't kill it or turn it into a big Fusion Coupe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2k05gt Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 no is the Mustang Goes Front Wheel Drive and a tiny engine, I am buying a Camaro in 2011 I want to live to see the Day the Mustang will beat a Camaro of the show room floor. Give us a 400hp + Mustang or I quit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donzuchowski Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 I'm starting to think either donzuchowski has a serious mental deficiency or he has a very bizarre sense of humor. yes i do have a bizarre sense of humor but still ford needs a business case for a speciality product for north america. Ford has stated they have canceled all rwd platforms. so that leaves either awd or fwd. i would not be suprised that the next all new mustang in 4 or 5 years might be based off a fwd lincoln platform. because why would ford spend $$$$ for just the mustang that does not share the platform with something else like a t-bird or a rwd lincoln or something. remember with cafe standards and polution standards might force ford gm and all others to go fwd or awd. i say that at least do a awd mustang with a 4cyl turbo like the svo from 1984. I would also say that perhaps ford need only two platforms one for cars and one for trucks and then merge them 4 years later into one. honda uses their minivan for there truck the ridgeline, pilot, and odysey. one platform like chrysler with the k-car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 yes i do have a bizarre sense of humor but still ford needs a business case for a speciality product for north america. Ford has stated they have canceled all rwd platforms. so that leaves either awd or fwd. i would not be suprised that the next all new mustang in 4 or 5 years might be based off a fwd lincoln platform. because why would ford spend $$$$ for just the mustang that does not share the platform with something else like a t-bird or a rwd lincoln or something. remember with cafe standards and polution standards might force ford gm and all others to go fwd or awd. i say that at least do a awd mustang with a 4cyl turbo like the svo from 1984. I would also say that perhaps ford need only two platforms one for cars and one for trucks and then merge them 4 years later into one. honda uses their minivan for there truck the ridgeline, pilot, and odysey. one platform like chrysler with the k-car. 1. There's already a business case for the Mustang. 2. They've never said they cancelled all RWD platforms. 3. There are no "Lincoln" platforms. 4. One platform? You do have a bizarre sense of humor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN12Fan Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I don't think it was limited to only the Panthers. I'm pretty sure GRWD would have spawned multiple RWD vehicles to replace both the Mustang and Panthers. Doesn't make sense to continue with the Mustang on a non-shared platform. It's done well enough so far. Frankly though I'm surprised that Ford hasn't even tried to base anything else on the current Mustang platform. You'd think there could have been a new Cougar or two-seater Thunderbird put on it. They could have had modern styling too, to juxtapose themselves from the Mustang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94ranger Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 It's done well enough so far. Frankly though I'm surprised that Ford hasn't even tried to base anything else on the current Mustang platform. You'd think there could have been a new Cougar or two-seater Thunderbird put on it. They could have had modern styling too, to juxtapose themselves from the Mustang. The Mustang rode on the fox platform for 25 years so why not keep it on the current one for a longer period than normal. If no suitable RWD platform is coming it may be more cost effective to update the current one and spawn Lincoln and even Mercury cars off of it. If those models take off then a new platform will be cost effective eventually. I thought that a platform that could be FWD, RWD, and AWD was in the works. I may be up in my sleep though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlover Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 When is the next gen car expected to arrive? fall 2012 as a 2013 model year? or later than that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 When is the next gen car expected to arrive? fall 2012 as a 2013 model year? or later than that? Originally 2012 from what I understand. With the current state of things, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that it has been pushed back at least another year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlover Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Originally 2012 from what I understand. With the current state of things, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that it has been pushed back at least another year. that makes sense, especially because they are putting the cash into engineering the 3.5, 5.0, six speed tranny's, and all additional modifications to support new powerplants to fit in the current bodystyle for 2011. Would be a bit of a waste if they are planning on releasing an all new car a year or two later. they would be better off putting the resources into getting the all new car sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 that makes sense, especially because they are putting the cash into engineering the 3.5, 5.0, six speed tranny's, and all additional modifications to support new powerplants to fit in the current bodystyle for 2011. Would be a bit of a waste if they are planning on releasing an all new car a year or two later. they would be better off putting the resources into getting the all new car sooner. Well, I doubt there is really a whole lot that needs to be altered on the car itself to make the new powertrains fit. A few new brackets and redesigned k-member is about all you'd need. Most of the other powertrain developments would be able to move over to the next body style anyway, so may as well engineer them now. I doubt the next-gen Mustang is going to be a ground-up new model anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwford Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 (edited) Ford's product development MO has been design a car, wait 5 years, do a major refresh, wait 5 more, replace. Don't believe me?: 1984 Ford Tempo debuts. 1989 major refresh. 1995 Contour debuts 1991 Escort debuts. 1997 major refresh. 2001 Focus debuts 2002 all new Explorer debuts. 2006 major refresh. 2011 new Explorer 1994 "new" Mustang debuts. 1989 major change. 2005 new Mustang. 2010 major change........2015?? I could go on... Edited March 27, 2009 by dwford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 (edited) Ford's product development MO has been design a car, wait 5 years, do a major refresh, wait 5 more, replace. Don't believe me?: 1984 Ford Tempo debuts. 1989 major refresh. 1995 Contour debuts 1991 Escort debuts. 1997 major refresh. 2001 Focus debuts 2002 all new Explorer debuts. 2006 major refresh. 2011 new Explorer 1994 "new" Mustang debuts. 1989 major change. 2005 new Mustang. 2010 major change........2015?? I could go on... You're talking old Ford and the old Ford way of doing things. You won't see a 5-year product update plan on any new Ford vehicle launched since 2005. Even the '10 Mustang is closer to a 4-year refresh than 5, since 2009 was a shortened production year. 2004 all new Five Hundred. 2008 refreshed as Taurus (4 years). 2010 major change (2 years). 2006 all new Fusion. 2010 refresh (4 years). 2007 all new Edge. 2011 refresh (4 years). The new models is far closer to: 3-4 years for refresh, another 2-3 years for major redesign -- basically the identical model the Japanese use. Edited March 27, 2009 by NickF1011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 2006 all new Fusion. 2010 refresh (4 years). Actually it's only 3.5 years for the 2010 Fusion (Oct. 2005 - March 2009) and I'd call the 2010 more than just a refresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Actually it's only 3.5 years for the 2010 Fusion (Oct. 2005 - March 2009) and I'd call the 2010 more than just a refresh. Even better then. Either way, the days of 5+ year refreshes for Ford vehicles are behind us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to put it on the D3 to "save fuel". I wonder what they'd say after the 4300 pound porker got worse mpg than the old "evil RWD V8's"? Kind of like the D3's do now compared to their RWD competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to put it on the D3 to "save fuel". I wonder what they'd say after the 4300 pound porker got worse mpg than the old "evil RWD V8's"? Kind of like the D3's do now compared to their RWD competition. :rolleyes: Your hate for D3 has clouded your judgment again. What RWD fullsize sedan beats the D3 Taurus in fuel economy again? Taurus: 18/28 Maybe it's the Crown Victoria? No, that's only rated 16/24. Or maybe you're thinking of the Pontiac G8? Nope. That's 17/25 even without the V8. 15/24 with. You must be thinking of the Chrysler 300 then? Oh wait. That only gets 18/26 with the base V6. That drops to 16/25 with the "evil V8". It's gotta be this awesome new Hyundai Genesis then! Oops. 18/27 with a V6. 17/25 with a V8. "The EPA can't be trusted." :blah: :blah: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05fordgt Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 From what I understand, the "all-new" Mustang will be 2014, to coinside with the car's 50's anniversary. Going to be a somewhat radical change, but I still expect to see a V8 in the offering. That's the info I hear as of right now from sources on TMS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 From what I understand, the "all-new" Mustang will be 2014, to coinside with the car's 50's anniversary. Going to be a somewhat radical change, but I still expect to see a V8 in the offering. That's the info I hear as of right now from sources on TMS. Similar to what I have heard as well. Of course, depending on the state of things, it might not really be "all-new", but I'm expecting something at least as drastic as the Fox > SN95 makeover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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